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(@dave-karoly)
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I found a Wild T1 and a Wild T2 under a desk today. The T2 is an older version with E on the eyepiece which I assume means "erecting."

I brought the T1 home (6" least count) so I can do a solar with it to see how it is. It seems pretty simple to operate. There is a micrometer you set to get the minutes and seconds.

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 3:57 pm
(@jim-frame)
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I haven't done a solar in almost 30 years, but when I did them it was with a new-style T1. We went a lot of miles through an assortment of National Forests with that gun.

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 4:06 pm
(@jimmy-cleveland)
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You lucky rascal you!:-)

I am saving to pick up an older transit or theodolite in the next year or so.

Let us know how it works out.

Jimmy

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 4:20 pm
 FLS
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I have a few old Wilds I'm not to attached too.

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 5:20 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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This instrument has "Division of Forestry" stickers on it. I don't get to keep it; it is State property. We have been the Department of Forestry (and Fire Protection) since the 1980s, at least.

I am guessing it is roughly 1970s vintage.

The bubbles are out of adjustment; that is easy to fix. I think I had it leveled. The optical plummet is out of adjustment; I could probably figure it out.

The vertical angles from both faces only add up to 359-57-48. I don't know if something is out of whack or possibly I don't know how to operate the instrument.

The horizontal angles are 00-00-00 face right and 179-59-30 face left.

It yielded N 89-40-52 E on my baseline from the Sun (4 sets) with residuals of 22", 11", 18" and 15". My bearing from Polaris using my Topcon Total Station is N 89-40-53 E so I did something right.

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 5:27 pm
(@jimmy-cleveland)
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FLS,

What do you have? I would like to pick up something, but it is pretty low on the priority list right now, as I am trying to get a few things paid off first.

Jimmy

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 5:34 pm
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I'd put the T1 back in the can and get out the T2........

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 6:06 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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Yes, I will check it out next.

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 6:24 pm
(@dave-lindell)
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Did you remember to check the split bubble for the zenith angles?

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 7:07 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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no I didn't. I'm winging it here.

Where is the split bubble?

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 7:17 pm
(@jim-frame)
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> Where is the split bubble?

You won't find one on a new-style (6" micrometer) T1, at least not any that I've seen. As far as I know, they were all built with compensators.

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 7:41 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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I just received an e-mail that indicated that.

The compensator is automatic.

There is a simple procedure to adjust the vertical circle.

 
Posted : June 11, 2012 7:51 pm
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we sold our old T1 to someone a few years back
i think we still have the distomat if you are interested
i know we have a distomat battery floating around

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 5:07 am
(@tom-wilson)
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There is a bubble available for the T1-A (last model) but you have to remove it to attache the mount for an EDM (DI-1000).

I took some sun shots with my T1-A a few years ago, I couldn't see any reason to use the total station. I was thrilled when I started to use the locks and tangents screws to site the sun and points. No motors or continuous tangents, just rock solid precision hardware. I found the T1 much more pleasant to use then my TS. Sometimes old is good!

T.W.

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 5:09 am
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When I first started surveying,38 years ago,my everyday transit was the Wild TI-A with the inverted image.

With the inverted image,giving line and reading stadia was interesting.

Solar observations were done with Wild T-2 or Wild T-3.

Ice

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 5:52 am
(@hub-tack)
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I also use the T1-A and the N2 level in the late 60's and early 70's. After a while you get use to plumbing the pole back wards and use a level rod with the numbers inverted.:-)

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 6:30 am
(@jim-frame)
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The engineering and manufacturing skill that went into those guns is pretty amazing. This cutaway view of a T1 with the light paths overlaid illustrates the level of ingenuity it took to produce them:

The fact that you could clamp this on a tripod and traverse through the woods all day long getting such accurate results is very impressive.

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 6:53 am
 jud
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Get used to inverted image quickly. The one that threw me was an inverted Alidade with a prism so you looked down into the prism instead of directly through the eye piece. The prism, if I remember correctly reversed the image so it looked normal but left and right were reversed. Might have been the other way around, don't remember.
jud

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 6:59 am
(@shawn-billings)
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:good:

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 7:03 am
(@half-bubble)
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Please send the T-0 my way. I can email you an address!

 
Posted : June 12, 2012 12:04 pm
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