The lot isn't usually changing from owner to owner, so there's probably no need for a new survey plan, and a copy of the old one should suffice.?ÿ
What they really need is the corners set/recovered and the lines staked.
I'm frequently surveying urban lots and blocks that were platted in the 1890's or thereabouts.?ÿ There isn't an original monument anywhere to be found, and there might be 3 or 4 replacement monuments total on 4 sides of a city block. I going an extra block in each direction to find enough to develop lines. They almost always piece back together with prorated lot dimensions no more than a few hundreths off the nominal. The point is to set the missing corners and lines. It is rarely to find new dimensions.
There are exceptions, of course.?ÿ ?ÿ
Right, I was more commenting on Scott's statement about re-using an old survey from the courthouse, which I understood as being a plan by him that someone is picking up, instead of getting their lot re-surveyed.?ÿ?ÿ
I don't see the problem with that, nor do I see the benefit, though, of the new owner just having the paper in hand, without knowing where their boundaries are in real life.
What do you guys mean by "recording state"?
A state where surveys are required to be filed or recorded in the public record.?ÿ That way it would be a public record showing that the WC is not the actual corner.
My experience is WC's not always known a s such but the public record does a lot of good.?ÿ Without the public record anything might happen.
I routinely file survey maps with the county and state for several reasons, many of which I've stated on this board before.?ÿ
- It is required if I recover or set a corner that is not already in the record or is materially different then the current solution. Having to set an offset for a lot corner will fall in the must record category as will finding a marker which may indicate a corner or reference to one that is not in the record.?ÿ
- There is no guarantee to my client that I will be in business tomorrow and that they will be able to obtain a copy of the map I produced for them. It so happens that I am in the same office and have the same phone number since 1978 so the chances that I am not here tomorrow are increasing.?ÿ
- Filing a map that shows occupational features such as fences, walls, buildings and other matters along lines create a snapshot in time which can be used to establish ownership.
- Generating a map showing my work and what I recovered in the course of the survey is a legacy for those who follow in my footsteps. I would rather my headstone read that?ÿ "he filed hundreds of maps and set thousands of points" than "we don't know how he did it".?ÿ ?ÿ
- I find that the need for most of the surveys that I do are triggered by a clients desire to either stay out of litigation or support litigation that they are already in. Judges, mediators and attorneys appreciate that the survey can be found in the record and often eliminates the need for me to be a part of a hearing or deposition.?ÿ
I have low tolerance for those who?ÿ cut corners in this profession. Not filing a map is cutting a corner for a finished product in my opinion.?ÿ
If during my research I uncover a survey map of the subject property I am bound to forward it to the perspective client; I usually recommend that they at least talk to that surveyor/company.?ÿ
Rant off.?ÿ
Well said Dan.
I agree wholeheartedly
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