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"Messing about with an adjoining landowner's boundary without his knowing all the details is a bit like going to visit his wife when you know he isn't home."

The second question is what is your opinion about it?


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 12:18 pm
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There are 3 things folks fight about:

1.) Church (This includes Politics, religion, and philosophies)

2.) Schools (This where the above is passed on to the next generation)

3.) Land Boundaries (This is where No. 1 above is practiced)

In the south, Sometimes the man's wife is more available, than his land boundaries!

(Unfortunately)

🙂

N


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 12:57 pm
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Dang Nate, that's not the 3 things I remember from those old days in the way tooo many taverns many of us have been in, that caused issues.

1) women
2) pool tables (especially for $$)
3) politics and/or religion and/or a short pour and/or your dart team losing and/or softball yahoo's and/or any cheater that gets caught in any of the above giving you a hard time when they are wrong all along.

Or any combination thereof. (is that 3) They certainly all do have their respective boundaries that better be respected.... 😉

But the short list is 1 & 2, with all due respect.


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 2:16 pm
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I've always heard it like this:
1) Dawgs
2) Wimmen
3) Lan Lines

and in that order.


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 3:09 pm
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Dang! Thanks for the reminder. I have a lady I need to call without her hubby being aware.


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 6:17 pm

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Here is the whole paragraph from a surveying book. Its part of list of steps in doing a survey when you get to part to start making the decisions on the evidence collected.

"Now is the time to stop measuring and start thinking. If your client doesn’t object, call in the adjoining landowners and let them see your evidence and offer their own ideas. Messing about with an adjoining landowner's boundary without his knowing all the details is a bit like going to visit his wife when you know he isn't home. Even if your client doesn't believe so, cutting the neighbors in on the problem is very much in his best interest, because they usually become as enthralled in the developing detective thriller as they do in the Saturday night TV whodunit. The final little bits and scraps of evidence usually come to the surveyor free in this manner and can be gotten in no other manner."


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 6:56 pm
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How many Church board members does it take to change a light bulb in the chancel?

6, 1 to change it and 5 to talk about how much better the old bulb was.


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 9:26 pm
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I like that quote a great deal except for one small section -

"If your client doesn’t object, call in the adjoining landowners and let them see your evidence and offer their own ideas."

If a client doesn't want me to get ALL of the evidence needed, then that client doesn't want a professional opinion - he wants a yes man. I prefer to speak with the adjoiners before during and after a survey.

What's the book title Mr. Day?


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 11:12 pm
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I just got the book today, bought it off Amazon. I really like what I've read so far.

Legal Principles of Property Boundary Location on the Ground in the Public Land Survey States
By Ira M. Tillotson PE, PLS
1973

Interestingly the original owners name, address, phone and business address is printed inside front cover from 1976. So I searched and the phone number and business address are good, company is still in business in Ohio. The original owner's obituary comes up from 2012 (died age 87). It says a reward will be paid if the book is returned, I think I'm OK to keep it, the wife and family must have give dad's books away. I paid $60 and add it to my collection of some classics.


 
Posted : December 30, 2014 11:25 pm
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> Legal Principles of Property Boundary Location on the Ground in the Public Land Survey States
> By Ira M. Tillotson PE, PLS
> 1973

:good:

A really good book with many lessons in it. It is somewhat difficult to follow at times, one thing that helped me was to photocopy the pages with the drawings to easily refer to when reading the text, otherwise you will continually be flipping pages.

One of my favorites:

"There can be no resurvey without a prior survey. However, that prior survey does not have to be of record, and it doesn't matter if it was done inaccurately or not according to the laws of subdivision. It does not even have to be done by a surveyor. If the landowners involved simply paced off the approximate distance and planted a wood stake and said, "Well, Charlie, this looks like to me like it's about it. Suit you?" "Yep, suits me," and those land owners and others around them and their subsequent owners accept that corner and use it, and this acceptance and use is shown by the actions of the land owners, that property corner reputed to be the 1/16 corner was fixed and remains fixed as far as those lands are involved, engineering measurements to the contrary. If this is not true all is chaos, and there is no property boundary security or stability on the ground. Praise God for the common sense of the common law."


 
Posted : December 31, 2014 8:39 am

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I hadn't read that yet but that certainly is a great one.


 
Posted : December 31, 2014 8:50 am
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Thanks. Cool story to go along with the book.

Sounds like an interesting read, I might have to check it out.


 
Posted : December 31, 2014 4:57 pm