I think it would be ethical to set the corners. But I would like to know under what circumstances would it have been ethical for the surveyor of record not to set the corners? Non payment? Dispute with the client? Original client sold the project? ???
I can't speak for Washington but typically in California the monuments are not set until after the subdivision construction is complete.
This is a problem when the project goes bankrupt after the map recorded.
It may be possible to set them on Corner Records or it may be better to do a Record of Survey. Either way would alert future generations that the monuments are different from those shown on the Subdivision Map.
> I can't speak for Washington but typically in California the monuments are not set until after the subdivision construction is complete.
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> This is a problem when the project goes bankrupt after the map recorded.
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> It may be possible to set them on Corner Records or it may be better to do a Record of Survey. Either way would alert future generations that the monuments are different from those shown on the Subdivision Map.
It gets even better; what happens when you disagree with the boundary of the original plat?
Dugger
It's not my Plat so I could file a Record of Survey showing my boundary but I realize that could cause problems with the lots next to the boundary.
> that could cause problems with the lots next to the boundary.
That's the problem, he says the plat to the west has corners off by as much as 0.6' (the line tapers from there to 0 in 660') and he does not accept them (I would've/will).
I don't think surveyors should be creating gaps/overlaps, maybe a record of survey will resolve that......;-)
I knew it! 😉
When are the irons close enough....BILL93
Sorry about being so late in replying, but long work hours non stop have caught up with me..caught a cold or bhronchitis..Amoxycillin is working though.
The OP post has a lot of holes in it, so I will address your question with a few assumptions on the bankrupt subdivision that is re starting.
The questions that I have on the situation is as follows:
1. Being a second phase joining to an older one, which normally records and sells to finance the second part, are these rear monuments companions to ones in the first phase? Phase lines are commonly sliced down rear lines.
2. Is the OP running on the exact same control that the original surveyor used to set the errant monuments? The 1/2" - 2" shift could be nothing more than the error in the subdivision control and not specific to the corners the OP wants to screw around with.
3. Is 1/2-2" going to mean a hill of beans to anyone?? I am assuming that this is a single family subdivision. A chain link fence post has a greater diameter that this minuscule error.
4. Where will the OP draw the line when he moves to a different site and starts finding previously set corners that stray from his self imposed parameters? Will he set "True Corners" with 8 decimal place coordinates? If he cant adjust to a non closure math corner now and work with it, then he is simply in the wrong line of work, or just needs about 2o years more experience.
5. Is the shift in a consistent direction? See Item 2.
6. Is he shooting a prism rod that's out of balance or working with a shaky chain man? Maybe the error is more his than the other surveyor.
7. How can you or anyone else know that these corners have not been relied upon? After all, even the OP infers that the first phase was done sometime prior to the second phase.
8. GPS or conventional equipment?
Last but definitely not least, moving the mouments that were placed prior to the OP arriving on the scene is not only a noobie act but it is also a slap in the face and spitting on the work of the original surveyor. In fact, his entire post is ridiculous...sheesh...0.05' - 0.15' OH Please! and in a rear line as well.
I may not agree with what one surveyor did, but the one thing I will not do, is move his work.