Just wondering about something and thinking out loud and it has been brought up many times before, and doubt it's even possible or if he would even be interested. Likely not, but what the heck.... 😉
I think most of us agree that we learn more here than we ever thought imaginable. It goes from GPS guru's, to soloist, to serious business issues, to animals, recipies, and of course some good old fashioned clean humor.
They have college degrees available on line. Most states now require CEU's. Many of the presenters of said CEU seminars are neither surveyors or lawyers, but just smart folks with a bit of an edge and are "connected".
He is our King Administrator. Judge & jury of every thing here, aside from us leggers keeping it civil. Yet we still learn more and more each and every time about surveying, and from a very broad based bunch of professionals from all corners.
I just wonder a couple things: Is it possible, and is he willing to administer it. For a fee of course, and we'd all chime in there without question.
Thoughts Wendell? Fellow Leggers?
The biggest problem with a CEU requirement is administration. The governing entity has to ensure that enough legitimate opportunities are available to the practitioners and then ensure that the practitioners are not just attending but actually getting something in the way of real education out of it that advances the goal of protecting the public. Accomplishing the former is difficult and expensive, but accomplishing the latter is nearly impossible. Those who want to educate themselves will, and those who just want to get their ticket punched will fork over their money and grumble about it, but not gain anything significant in the process. (Needless to say, I'm glad CA doesn't have a CEU requirement.)
Wendell would face the same problems, but without the institutional means to support the administration of a program that would be recognized by the various states. Sorry to be a wet blanket, but to me the idea is DOA.
Oh I do agree on the DOA, and the administrative nightmare involved. I wouldn't do it if I were him. But I was just thinking out loud, kind of like our Hawaiian pal yswami. Giving kudos where due.
Some states that require CEU's are "self administered", in that unless asked and can prove it there is never a problem. NV is that way, and MI just implemented the same process to take effect in 2016 I think. AZ is fighting the CEU idea all the way, so far. Not sure of other states.
It just seems that some of the survey topics discussed here are nothing short of very educational. Lurking does not count. Contributing is very valid and appreciated by us peers. Everybody wins and everybody learns something, even if they disagree.
I agree on the educational value of the site. There's a lot of knowledge available for the asking.
I've learned more on here than I ever did at an association conference.
:gammon: A men.
When I was involved with grading the California State Specific exam, which was an intense 3 day process, several graders where licensed in multiple states and were able to get CEU credit for the time grading the California examination. I am not sure what the California Board had to do to certify the attendance or have the grading recognized by the other states as qualifying CEU time (Ric???), but that is an atypical model that might be worth exploring. Granted, that is different than what we are talking about here, but also different than the form CEU credits usually take.
Ask LarryP what it takes for that. It ain't fun.
It was something of a PITA to let me sign certs when I did a little class for Larry once. Turns out someone from the board came to meet me but Larry and I had gone out for lunch. I did the morning class and Larry for the afternoon.
I was told the board was "watching me" (several told me that) after I went public about a mathematical error in one of their manuals. Honestly, I think it was more of a printing error than a real error in their math. They probably took offense.
PB-
Ditto
Derek