This summer I acquired some photos from survey being done in early 1900's.
While preparing to matte them, I began to think ... I wonder does this monument still exist ??ÿ ?ÿWhat condition is it in ??ÿ ?ÿ Are there any recent photos of it ?
Can anyone out there answer these questions
The backside of the photo states ...?ÿ "initial corner on the East-West line of Nevada"
Another photo in this group indicates the crew was camping in the Beaver Creek Mountains
I would really like to place a recent photo alongside this in the frame
Any input would greatly be appreciated
Paul
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I don't know about the "East-West Line of Nevada," considering the "ARIZONA" scribed on the stone. The "NL 37" almost certainly refers to the 37th Parallel North, which is the Latitude of the North Line of Arizona. There was at one time an East-West Line on that Parallel between Nevada and Arizona (New Mexico), but it was deleted long before Nevada Statehood. The 1904 is also interesting, all of Nevada's boundaries were surveyed prior to 1900 (I think).
Interesting Monument, I look into it next week when I get some time.?ÿ
Arizona and Nevada start on Page 134:
When I saw MathTeacher's link above, I ran over to my book case to see if I had a copy of that Bulletin (#226) and I do (in excellent condition). I then took a look at my ??Publications of the Geological Survey 1879-1961,? and found the following references;
Bulletin 13 Boundaries of the United States and the several States and Territories, by Henry Gannett (1885). I don't have that one except as a PDF.
Bulletin 171 Boundaries of the United States and the several States and Territories, by Henry Gannett (1900). I don't have that one except as a PDF.
Bulletin 226 Boundaries of the United States and the several States and Territories, by Henry Gannett (1904).
Bulletin 689 Boundaries, areas, geographic centers, and altitudes of the United States and the several States and Territories, by E.M. Douglas (1924). I have that one in poor condition.
Bulletin 817 Boundaries, areas, geographic centers, and altitudes of the United States and the several States and Territories, by E.M. Douglas (1930). I have that one in good condition.
Generally speaking, my GO TO publication for these matters is USGS Professional Paper 909, BOUNDARIES OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE SEVERAL STATES, by Franklin K. Van Zandt 1976.
All of these publications are available for download as PDF(s) from the USGS Website.
@cv I missed that party, but it looks like there were plenty of troops on hand. Red Sandstone was a mainstay for obelisks (State Corners, Mineral Monuments and such) in and around Utah. Always fun to see them!
I would have loved to see you there. Yes, we had good help although it did take multiple trips to complete the work. The BLM required absolute minimal impact to the immediate environment.?ÿThe next time you get down this way, let me know if you would like to run ??out there?? in my buggy to see the new monument.?ÿ It??s a picturesque ride if you love the desert as I do.
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@cv I don't get out much anymore, and my daughter moved out of Vegas years ago (in Phoenix now), so it's unlikely that I will get to your neck of the woods (desert) anytime soon. Now that I'm retired, I don't do the St. George thing anymore either.
Loyal
After looking at the "new" BLM photos and the "OLD" photo, I'd say that they COULD be the same monument.
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Yes, you are correct.?ÿ The original monument erected by James in 1870, was determined to be incorrect by Carpenter in 1901.?ÿ Carpenter declared that he ??obliterated?? the original monument.?ÿ We know that today to be untrue. Carpenter ??recovered?? the original sandstone obelisk, flipped it over and reused it to monument his position.?ÿ A ring of native stones was recovered at the original ??James?? position during the retracement performed alongside the re-monumentation.?ÿ Not even a shard of sandstone was recovered from the old James position, so we had our suspicions.?ÿ The ??proof?? is provided below:
The 'old top' being inverted, had fractured off the remainder of the sandstone obelisk, and is presently on display?ÿat the Washington County Administration Building in St. George, Utah.
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Another link:
https://www.washco.utah.gov/history/original-monument-for-southwest-corner-of-utah/
Sweet!
I purchased these photos in two groupings ... the first two pics below came with the one at the beginning of this thread ... the others came from the same individual and together they are sequentially numbered on their backside. All have captions on their backside written by the same person in pencil.
MANY THANKS to CV-Nevada for his input
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?ÿ"dinner in camp"
"camp in the Beaver Creek Mountains"
"towing the boat up stream in order to make a landing at the willow patch on the opposite shore"
"where the line crosses the Colorado River"
?ÿ"the State Line Butte"
?ÿ"swimming a horse across the Colorado"
?ÿ"a hard trail in the desert"
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"astronomers preparing for work"
