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Does/have anyone ever been requested to use a title like "Sir" or "Dame" "Lady" or the like on a plat?
The warranty deed, of course, doesn't have these titles but the owner is requesting that the plat be in the name of "Lady ......."

I don't see a problem with it as it won't be recorded but thought I'd throw it out to you guys for some feedback.

Thank you
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Posted : March 22, 2016 9:42 am
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It seems like it would be okay to me. But would it be important to find out if they have that title? Like can you call yourself "Junior" if you don't have your fathers same name? Would you have to have been annointed as a "Lord" or knighted to be called "Sir" to be called that? ie: what if she "ain't no lady".

 
Posted : March 22, 2016 10:00 am
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I haven't heard of any problems with personal titles in the US. You can generally go by any name you want unless it is for fraudulent purposes. Unearned professional titles (LS, Dr., etc.) will get you in trouble.

I know that in the UK, titles of nobility and coats of arms are legally protected.

 
Posted : March 22, 2016 10:33 am
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Tom Adams, post: 363645, member: 7285 wrote: It seems like it would be okay to me. But would it be important to find out if they have that title? Like can you call yourself "Junior" if you don't have your fathers same name? Would you have to have been annointed as a "Lord" or knighted to be called "Sir" to be called that? ie: what if she "ain't no lady".

That question never bothered "Lord" Timothy Dexter, and he never had any legal trouble over his appropriation of that title. I suppose he could have run into problems if he'd traveled to England and tried to pass himself off as a lord, but he stayed in the colonies.

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 4:40 am
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Cathy Costarides, post: 363640, member: 1234 wrote: I don't see a problem with it as it won't be recorded but thought I'd throw it out to you guys for some feedback.

I don't see any problem even if it is recorded. B-)

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 5:09 am
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 5:20 am
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Esquire is a good one to use. It seems to irritate attorneys, but all it means is "a man of letters".

R. P. L. S. fits that description. Of course, one might not want to be called, even in error, an attorney.

Jack Chiles

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 12:32 pm
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Dave Karoly, post: 363765, member: 94 wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton

Emperor Norton is a very interesting personality from the history of San Francisco. Whenever I'm in Colma (just south of SF) I'll stop by his headstone and leave a coin or two.

The great thing about the title of Esquire is that there is not legal establishment of that title in the US. It is generally used by attorneys, but there is no regulating board that governs its use. So I like to append Esq. to my name when I'm writing emails to my friends and family just because it is funny. I also like to break the guidelines and use both "Mr" in front of my name and "Esq" after it. And I'll put the PLS in there, and sometimes an ECV, just because it is absurd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esquire

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 12:44 pm
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I tried using DDSM behind my name once but it really pee-ed off one of our posters, so I quit it.

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 1:08 pm
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Pretty sure that the gal in question is just as Southern as I am, no nobility, but who am I to even wonder such things....
I'll asked if it comes up again because I would like to know how someone obtains that title.

I've also seen Esq used by attorneys but mostly by lawyers who are persons who graduated law school but haven't/never passed the bar. It always made me think that the lawyer felt bad and needed a consolation title to raise their spirits. Whatever helps.

Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Lady Catherine/aka Cathy/aka Mom/aka what's for dinner/breakfast/etc?

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 1:15 pm
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Tom Adams, post: 363839, member: 7285 wrote: I tried using DDSM behind my name once but it really pee-ed off one of our posters, so I quit it.

You could try just the using degree symbol, that would be cool.

Cathyå¡ B.' Costarides"
sorry, been a looonnnggg day and i have pollen in my eyes.

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 1:21 pm
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Code for DDSM is å¡ å¡ " '. He'll like that. He speaks in code.

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 1:45 pm
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Many attorneys that have acquired their Doctorate in Law attach Esquire to the end of their names.

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 4:33 pm
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Cathy Costarides, post: 363844, member: 1234 wrote: You could try just the using degree symbol, that would be cool.

Cathyå¡ B.' Costarides"
sorry, been a looonnnggg day and i have pollen in my eyes.

Prince wasn't actually princes legal name. His legal name was a symbol....go figure.

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 5:21 pm
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Tom Adams, post: 363645, member: 7285 wrote: It seems like it would be okay to me. But would it be important to find out if they have that title? Like can you call yourself "Junior" if you don't have your fathers same name? Would you have to have been annointed as a "Lord" or knighted to be called "Sir" to be called that? ie: what if she "ain't no lady".

I'm not a junior. Me and my father have the same first name but different middle names, but at work I refer to myself as Jr. Just easier and less confusing.

 
Posted : March 23, 2016 5:22 pm
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US Constitution Article 1 Section 9:

[INDENT=1]No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.[/INDENT]
[INDENT=1] [/INDENT]
I don't know if a land surveyor license counts as office of trust. I'm pretty sure even the most minor public office, such as school board member or notary public would count. Of course, it's only a problem if the title is awarded by a foreign government; if you awarded it to yourself, no problem. And I don't think the OP has any duty to inquire whether the title satisfies the constitutional requirements or not.

 
Posted : March 24, 2016 12:37 am
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Rich., post: 363879, member: 10450 wrote: Prince wasn't actually princes legal name. His legal name was a symbol....go figure.

Total side track here. The musical artist Prince was born as Prince Rogers Nelson in 1958. In his musical career he went simply by Prince. However, when he tried to change his contract with Warner (the publishing company that held majority interest on his music and the stage name of Prince), they didn't want to do that. So he changed his name to the symbol so that Warner wouldn't have any claim to any new music that he wrote. Then, after his contract was up with Warner, he was able to purchase back the publishing rights to his back catalog. He was also no longer legally bound to Warner for any future music that he wrote.

So a lot of people said that he was just being a "crazy artist" for changing his name. The fact was that he was being a very clever individual using the letter of copyright law to keep from having to pay Warner any more money.

 
Posted : March 25, 2016 9:05 am