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Ryan Versteeg
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Up until last year some time, I would email Sandra Robertson at UPRR and she would email me PDF files of UP and SP RR valuation maps, for a small fee. I tried again just recently and received no reply from her.

Is she gone from UPRR? Does someone have new contact info to obtain copies of Valuation maps from UPRR?

Thanks,
Ryan.


 
Posted : April 27, 2015 5:02 pm
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> Up until last year some time, I would email Sandra Robertson at UPRR and she would email me PDF files of UP and SP RR valuation maps, for a small fee. I tried again just recently and received no reply from her.
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> Is she gone from UPRR? Does someone have new contact info to obtain copies of Valuation maps from UPRR?

The last maps I ordered (about a month ago) from the Union Pacific map library came from this very helpful person:

Ms. Kendall Giwoyna
Map Librarian
Union Pacific Railroad
402-501-4941
[email protected]


 
Posted : April 27, 2015 8:02 pm
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Yes Miss Sandra is gone she retired a year or so ago


 
Posted : April 28, 2015 11:58 am
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If you don't mind me asking, what exactly are valuation maps? I haven't had the privilege of working next to a Union Pacific Railroad yet.

Corey


 
Posted : April 28, 2015 12:31 pm
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It's basically a right of way map of a railroad RW. It usually shows the track layout and stationing, post mile markers, land the railroad owns and easements and other encumbrances. Southern Pacific had real nice looking color ones.

Attached is a sample of one I'm looking at right now. This was Southern Pacific, which was gobbled up by Union Pacific 20ish years ago.


 
Posted : April 28, 2015 12:39 pm

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...and Thanks to Kent for the contact info. Appreciate it.


 
Posted : April 28, 2015 12:46 pm
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Here is one from the B&O that CSX's GIS department has crapped up with linework on the image - but they do give centerline stations for all the utility crossings (plus points of frog & switch)


 
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Thanks Ryan and James, it's nice to know that there are some resources available.

Corey


 
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Be careful with stationing on these maps. I've heard previously that sometimes it is horizontal stationing and sometimes it is track stationing.


 
Posted : April 28, 2015 6:04 pm
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Kent McMillan, post: 314978, member: 3 wrote: Ms. Kendall Giwoyna
Map Librarian
Union Pacific Railroad
402-501-4941
[email protected]

I initiated a request for some ROW maps day before yesterday, and after a little back-and-forth clarifying my area of interest I received them via email first thing this morning. The $75 cost is very reasonable under the circumstances. Ms. Giwoyna was impressively responsive.


 
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Val maps by their nature are az built maps meaning the ROW already exists when they are created, there may be a deed or a row map also


 
Posted : March 1, 2017 9:57 am
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The Val Maps in the northeast also show the deed references from the land acquisitions (and out sales, if any). They look like quite the patchwork of small parcels in some areas.


 
Posted : March 1, 2017 10:14 am
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Ryan Versteeg, post: 314958, member: 41 wrote: Up until last year some time, I would email Sandra Robertson at UPRR and she would email me PDF files of UP and SP RR valuation maps, for a small fee. I tried again just recently and received no reply from her.

Is she gone from UPRR? Does someone have new contact info to obtain copies of Valuation maps from UPRR?

Thanks,
Ryan.

I contact Kendall Giwoyna (Go-Wanna) at (402) 501-4941; however, the last time I did, her voicemail indicated all requests must be in email format and her email is [email protected]


 
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Jim Frame, post: 416359, member: 10 wrote: I initiated a request for some ROW maps day before yesterday, and after a little back-and-forth clarifying my area of interest I received them via email first thing this morning. The $75 cost is very reasonable under the circumstances. Ms. Giwoyna was impressively responsive.

Yes, my dealings with her have always been good. I just wish that UP had :

(a) the property schedules that were submitted to the Interstate Commerce Commission pursuant to the Valuation Act of 1913 (which are in the ICC records in the National Archives),

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valuation_Act

(b) copies of earlier states of the right-of-way maps, considering that what they maintain typically show later modifications and the time lag associated with ordering copies of the originals submitted to the ICC from the National Archives is usually formidable.


 
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For those unfamiliar with the Property Schedules that the railroads filed with the ICC to accompany the valuation maps, here's an example of one. Note that it sets out the details of the nature of the estate the railroad thought it owned, i.e. whether fee simple or easement only, from whom the land was acquired, and when. The parcel numbers key to the valuation map. These can be obtained from the National Archives and Records Administration free of charge (for up to six or seven sheets, I think it was - if you're willing to settle for a digital photo of the ledger-sized sheets, as I am).

It helps to have the valuation maps when requesting these records because those maps have the necessary information such as operating carrier, valuation section, sheet number and ICC stations that make it as easy as possible for the NARA researcher to locate the property schedule.


 
Posted : March 1, 2017 1:03 pm