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(@gregpendleton)
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Would any of you actually consider using this thing? Having the Data Collector built into the GPS/Antenna seems completely wacky. Now if you had 5 of these puppies spread out and welded together mounted on a push wheel with a handle. Then you would really have something.

Javad seems to be on the cutting edge of "Nobody has ever done this before" without asking why.

Not really sure the C.O.N.G.O. choosing this product marketing campaign really works in the U.S. market either.

 
Posted : September 17, 2010 9:04 am
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well, I'm running the videos from youtube while I work.. sounds like a pretty sweet unit. Now, I never did understand the last one, with the 4 units in an array...that seemed really wacky. When you are on the bleeding edge where Javad hangs out, you have to have tough skin.

 
Posted : September 17, 2010 9:48 am
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"...Having the Data Collector built into the GPS/Antenna seems completely wacky...."

Sounds like an I-phone application.

 
Posted : September 17, 2010 11:21 am
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Maybe ok for GIS collection, but I cant see it for survey applications. Can you see using this to drive your robot when you cant GPS? I also like my antenna at 2 meters, but I have to tiptoe just to get the antenna on, so I cant imagine data entry would be too swift.

 
Posted : September 17, 2010 11:53 am
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Don't dis Javad's stuff until you really check it out. I have known him for 22 years and he is a genius. Everyone thought his first Ashtech LXII was crazy too, until they used them. I still have LINECOMP for L1 processing if need be. I helped work with him to do the first kinematic surveys, and this was before we had L2 being observed. Guy is a genius... Look at his stuff closely, it is the cutting edge. You can buy a Ford or Chevy GPS, but why not get a Mazaratti.

 
Posted : September 17, 2010 9:48 pm
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I thought the unit looked pretty interesting, but is really lacking something important. With two cameras, compass and tilt sensors, why didn't they put in a range finder so that you could take eccentric GPS shots with automatic distance and compass bearings? It starts right around 12K so it's not ridiculously expensive.

Just wait a year or two until this whole unit is the size of an iphone!! that's where it's going for sure.

 
Posted : September 18, 2010 5:19 am
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I handled one at the ESRI conference. Interesting concept with the cameras and the tilt sensors. You do not have to be plumb over a point or in fact even on the point to get an accurate shot to some point.

The man is indeed a legend when it comes to electronic processing but has always suffered (in my opinion) in the marketing portion.

 
Posted : September 18, 2010 5:29 am
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Deral

I have some great Javad stories to tell over a,beer sometime.

 
Posted : September 18, 2010 8:36 am
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Everything aside, nobody answered if they would consider using this. There are a variety of Javad units I would totally consider. And then there are some others.

Howard Hughes was also a Genius, but the Spruce Goose didn't get a lot of practical use either.

 
Posted : September 19, 2010 10:39 am
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Will demo Triumpk-VS at Intergeo on 5-6 Oct.
Will let you know if surveyors can use this GPS.

 
Posted : September 20, 2010 6:11 am
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I would agree that it looks like a GIS tool, like something you could wear on a neck strap or mount on a bike. For survey accuracy, you'd probably want it mounted on a 2 meter pole, which makes it hard to push the buttons, I'd think.

 
Posted : September 20, 2010 9:06 am
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Separate antenna is available.

 
Posted : September 21, 2010 7:04 am
(@the-pseudo-ranger)
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Ah ... I see. But now it doesn't seem so "ground breaking" anymore. It looks bulkier than the Topcon, Lieca and Trimble gear.

I guess I'm bit attached to the old "TDS Way", where I can plug the Ranger into the HiPer or the Robot, and switch back and forth as much as I like. I'm probably going to be in for a shock when the economy improves and I'm in the market for new equipment and I have to deal with all these changes ...

 
Posted : September 21, 2010 1:42 pm