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Trimble Siteworks Closed Traverse

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(@verplanck)
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Does anyone here use Trimble Siteworks and if so are you conducting closed traverses with it? Siteworks is catered to construction surveying which seems to limit me when it comes to more traditional surveying. I need to provide my closure to DOT at the beginning of a project however siteworks doesn't even give me the option to zero my backsight.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

 
Posted : January 9, 2024 3:43 am
(@surveyratlarge)
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Siteworks works fine for traversing. There is no need to set zero, the software works by calculating the difference in the captured angles. All you need are two points to start. Siteworks allows the closing of the traverse in the data collector itself. You can also export the file as a network .dc and bring it into TBC for any further adjustment you may want to do and to generate the closure report. Hope this helps. Happy Traversing.

 
Posted : January 9, 2024 10:07 am
(@verplanck)
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Ok thanks. I feel like I'm losing my mind, I cant believe I have yet to notice the Traverse option in the total station setup feature up until now. I've always have just set up on a known point and checked into other known points- or resect.

 
Posted : January 10, 2024 12:40 am
(@verplanck)
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Hey so I've been having some trouble using the traverse feature and I'm hoping you might be able to shed some light- I was on a job with 3 known control points provided by DOT (there was supposed to be 4 but one is missing)

I set up on Pt2, backsight point 1 and foresighted a new “intermediate point” that I set (which according to siteworks manual is required, I cant foresight another known point)

I then set up on the intermediate point, backsight Pt2 and foresight pt3 – this would conclude my traverse.

I go to “adjust traverse” and it’s telling me it cant be done- I need to be set up on a known point and foresighting a known point. So the way I interpret that is that in order to actually use the Traverse feature there needs to be a minimum of 4 known points plus an intermediate point that I set. The only work around I’m seeing on this job would be for me to set and establish another “known” point and use that to establish the final leg of the traverse. (this is along a corridor where doing a true closed traverse isn’t really practical) Can you confirm if that is correct? I’m trying to get to place where I can generate a closure report to provide to DOT and I’m not seeing how to do that without using the Traverse feature.

Thanks again for the help

 
Posted : February 1, 2024 12:51 am
jflamm
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First of all, thanks for posting about Siteworks as we are looking to move from iCON to this. This gives me a heads up for sure! Anyway, I'm thinking that it does require 4 points because it wants you to have a closing azimuth to shoot for. You set up on 2, BS 1. That's your starting AZ. Then you traverse along, eventually sitting on 3 and FS 4 for your closure/mis-closure. I've argued with a few CC's over this. They think they can just shoot at the point and look at the coordinates. You need to occupy that last point and turn that closing angle and azimuth. I lose my sh!t when I hear of office people just pencil whipping an angle/distance in there and making it look perfect because the field crew was too lazy to do that last setup.

 
Posted : February 1, 2024 1:45 am

(@verplanck)
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Yeah that makes sense. Siteworks is pretty user friendly but I'm not really that impressed with the traverse function so far. Trimble Access seems more tailored for trained surveyors.

 
Posted : February 1, 2024 2:50 am