Loyal
Need some help?
Keith
Not yet, we are still in the preliminary "get the records together" phase, and trying to cherry-pick a few corners to get ourselves aligned with the world (1853, 1869, 1871, 1872, 1886, 1896, etc. etc.).
Loyal
Leon
Nice looking mound. Now for the bug dust search. Nothing like having multiple GLO surveys! The bottom of Sanpete Valley, all Mogo 1856, only plat used for patent, a few posts found, more mounds, for the majority all you have is the settlers improvements.
Lots of so called dependent resurveys (private), I've never been able to figure out what they depended on other than math and a few assumed points, most of the dependent resurveys miss every fence, road, barnyard, irrigation ditch, highway and such. I suppose none of that counts and the landowners ignore most of it (resurveys). Me, I just sort of stand aside and observe in amazement, few will pay for the value of my work so I just do other things to survive. I've been around long enough not to take on a big liability for the cost of lunch.
Besides, Loyal is out there. Someday, maybe someone (like Loyal) will find the original corner, so unless repose set in things will go south in a hurry.
Wow, and all the original surveys left us in Florida were a bunch of rotting wooden stakes at best...
Actually, I've had the pleasure of following behind several BLM dependent resurveys done at various times when I've surveyed adjacent to the indian reservations in Florida. Dependent resurveys left easy tracks to follow, and type written notes. My parents are always amazed when I can pick up a very old handwritten document, study it for a minute, and then read it aloud as if I'd penned it myself.
I have yet to find a pit & mound combination in Florida that I could recover and hag my hat on. We don't have any rocks, and the sand just washed back into the pits. If that secondary corner you located pans out, then I'm certainly impressed, and I can see how working where there were rocks available is quite helpful in an instance like this.
Keith
I will volunteer to be a witness.
I have too much paid leave so time off is no problem.
OK maybe that wouldn't be a good idea if you mean witnesses that could get deposed later 🙂
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Funny thing is, I've recovered a BLM dependent resurvey corner set in 1926 in Florida that started life as a 192_ cap. The 6 was obviously smaller than the first three digits, but not as small as the one pictured above. I guess the BLM guys out west were working from old stock in a warehouse somewhere.
Saddly, I cannot fault the government. I've made that mistake myself ordering Berntsen caps that were obsolete before we got them all in the ground. 200_ caps that got stamped in 2010. :-@
Where2,
I'm kind of glad we live in "lighterwood" and "ferrous" country. I get very tired thinking about trying to find a buried stone in a field of stones...
... must be a rush to find one, though.
Of course, the trade-off is they get to work in beautiful scenery and great GPS conditions.
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Nice find!
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I have one too:
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Wouldn't it be sweet (but boring) if they were all that easy!
NAW, all the fun is in the hunt!
BUT...it's sure nice to have a few of those to get you "on the trail."
Loyal
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Gene had one at 13,000 feet that sticks up like that. You can see the 1/4 from 200' away. It's not much fun hiking back up to the truck, though. Walk 20' puff puff puff walk 20' puff puff puff, etc. 😉
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Keith, that is actually and truly Inspirational; it is awesome in the original and truest sense of the word. Only a surveyor can appreciate how wonderful that is. Excuse me for over-reacting, but I love that picture,
Don
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you can even see evidence of the curved line in Keith's picture. Way off to the west there is apparently a line on a different bearing (to the right) which must be the same latitudinal arc he was standing on when he shot the photo 😉
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I was doing initial area familiarization with a client once when he asked what I was hoping to find. I said a stone. He said take your pick. I pointed to one about 150 feet away and said I liked it best. He asked why it was best. I told him because it was standing straight up unlike the thousands of other stones nearby. We found a 1" iron bar driven next to it just like my record search had indicated would be the case. He did everything but bow down and call me a god or something. He was completely amazed.
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> ...He did everything but bow down and call me a god or something. He was completely amazed.
The typical accepted response would be "and that's why you hired me wasn't it?".
If you walked into your doctor and he took a look at you and made a proper diagnosis, that's what you'd think, isn't it? I'm paying this professional top dollar for his expert opinion and superior knowledge. I could have spent days surfing the internet looking up my symptoms, and might have come up with the same diagnosis, eventually... The client could have looked for days and likely found the same rock and iron rod, but he paid the surveyor for his expert knowledge on the subject.
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Don,
We don't get to see many that are that good and preserved. I did not "freshen" the 1/4 mark on it, just the way we found it.
Yes, it would not be very tough to find the corners if they were all marked like that one?
Keith
Photos of a "4" for you Dave
whatever the datum, 13k is high!
This one is at about 1000 feet in north-central San Diego County:
There is an MIR but it is pretty much impossible to photograph without some sort of highlight:
Sec Cor
Not sure of the year of the stone, probably late 1800's. Perpetuated in '52.
DJJ
Sec Cor
That was back in the days when BLM land surveyors were not digging up the original stone and they set the iron post alongside. This led to confusion and the practice was stopped in the early 60's or so.
Keith
