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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

the last thing this country needs is another government agency

LTSA Is a non-profit, privately owned company, that handles all the title in British Columbia. I post this every time this subject comes up. In hopes that it will catch on, here in Washington.

I brought this up to a prominent surveyor, and was told that the Attorneys would never go along with it. Takes away a HUGE revenue stream...


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 2:25 pm
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Posted by: @dmyhill I dealt with 4 different officers as each one moved on..

Sounds a lot like a little history that I've had with the AK BLM Office.


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 2:34 pm
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

the last thing this country needs is another government agency

LTSA Is a non-profit, privately owned company, that handles all the title in British Columbia. I post this every time this subject comes up. In hopes that it will catch on, here in Washington.

I brought this up to a prominent surveyor, and was told that the Attorneys would never go along with it. Takes away a HUGE revenue stream...

As you know we have (had) a torrens system here in WA. (65.12 RCW)

And no, it never really caught on, and from what I know the most used portion of the code is to use the process to withdraw from the Registered Lands.

https://stafnelaw.com/torrens-act/

explains why you would want to include your property in the Registered Lands.

I actually do understand why someone would not want to have their lands in such a system, and mainly for the reasons that were stated above. It is a little bit easier to force an insurance company to do the right thing or admit a mistake than it is to have the same outcome with a county auditor.

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And the Auditors HATE the system, as it is a lot of work and risk.

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Posted : December 9, 2021 3:17 pm
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Posted by: @dmyhill

As you know we have (had) a torrens system here in WA.

Oregon also had a registry at one time. It was toast long before I came to town. My understanding is that it was voluntary and virtually unused. Nobody wanted to pay the registry fee.?ÿ


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 3:52 pm
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Posted by: @dougie

LTSA Is a non-profit, privately owned company, that handles all the title in British Columbia.

It is a corporation established by, and its operating parameters dictated by, order of a government agency.?ÿ ?ÿA rose by any other name... ?ÿIt's like Canada is this whole other country.


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 4:09 pm

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Government is better, far better, than any private corporation running everything for their own benefit.


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 4:49 pm
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Posted by: @dave-karoly

Government is better, far better,

Please, Dave. Don't get my thread deleted.


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 4:54 pm
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@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

The LTSA is a unique construct that was established under British Columbiaƒ??s Land Title and Survey Authority Act and officially separated from the government on Jan. 20, 2005. It is not a title company--there are no title companies in British Columbia as Americans understand them. Title in this province is protected by the Land Title Act. The LTSA is a private corporation, but it has no shares. All revenue goes back into LTSA, and a portion of those fees then go to the British Columbia provincial government.


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 5:20 pm
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@dougie?ÿ

It is hard to tell were the line between private corporation and government entity lies here. It is more than a bit fuzzy.?ÿ The registry was a government agency for over 100 years before they came up with this new arrangement.?ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : December 9, 2021 7:17 pm
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@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

Yes, they had a pretty good start, and a decent base to work with.

I helped a friend of mine interview Mike Thompson, British Columbia's Surveyor General, in 2010, for a POB Article. We made 2 visits, and spent a total of 5 hours with Mike, and his assistant, talking about the whole process. It was quite enlightening. The transition seemed pretty smooth. We visited 1 of the 3 offices, and there seemed to be a lot of information there. Mike seemed to think the "Government" was happy to give it all over.

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Posted : December 10, 2021 1:07 pm

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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma
Posted by: @dmyhill

As you know we have (had) a torrens system here in WA.

Oregon also had a registry at one time. It was toast long before I came to town. My understanding is that it was voluntary and virtually unused. Nobody wanted to pay the registry fee.?ÿ

Basically the same thing here. At some point it will go away (maybe it did this session or last?) and no one will know. Like a tree falling in the forest with no one to hear it.?ÿ

I am not aware of anyone that has done a survey of property in the registry, so...


 
Posted : December 10, 2021 2:31 pm
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Posted by: @norman-oklahoma

@dougie?ÿ

It is hard to tell were the line between private corporation and government entity lies here. It is more than a bit fuzzy.?ÿ The registry was a government agency for over 100 years before they came up with this new arrangement.?ÿ?ÿ

supposedly Fannie Mae, the USPS, etc etc are not government either...


 
Posted : December 10, 2021 2:33 pm
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Posted by: @dougie

@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

Yes, they had a pretty good start, and a decent base to work with.

I helped a friend of mine interview Mike Thompson, British Columbia's Surveyor General, in 2010, for a POB Article. We made 2 visits, and spent a total of 5 hours with Mike, and his assistant, talking about the whole process. It was quite enlightening. The transition seemed pretty smooth. We visited 1 of the 3 offices, and there seemed to be a lot of information there. Mike seemed to think the "Government" was happy to give it all over.

?ÿ

Dougie

That is the only way it would live on in WA. The auditors HATE it. They do not know how or what to do with it, except maybe King County.


 
Posted : December 10, 2021 2:35 pm
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