Some things are not supposed to be fixed.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/06/local-california-government-accidentally-destroys-geological-marvel.html?__source=yahoo%7Cfinance%7Cheadline%7Cheadline%7Cstory&par=yahoo&doc=103768296&yptr=yahoo&apos ;">We needed that to stay messed up.
Guess they will have to begin their process all over.
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Does the boundary follow the creep, or does it stay in the same geographic location. If an offset was set on the top of the curb, does the property corner stay the same distance from the offset mark? I mean the property probably creeped the same amount as the curb, and the movement is slow and imperceptible..... I'm thinking it would move with the creep.
If they later moved the curb, the property would stay where it last "creeped" to.?
Tom Adams, post: 380210, member: 7285 wrote: Does the boundary follow the creep, or does it stay in the same geographic location. If an offset was set on the top of the curb, does the property corner stay the same distance from the offset mark?
Those danged ADA ramps have destroyed an incredible number of survey marks in downtown Austin. I'm glad to hear that they've moved to California to continue the work:
"The city of Hayward removed the offset curb, which lies at an intersection, to make way for a wheelchair accessible ramp."
'Round here the local public agencies must put the ADA ramps in or they lose their federal funding. And big brother actually checks to make sure it gets done.
Steve
In Denver, when I lived there, the City and County Surveyor made a big effort to reference out the references and put a mark back in on the new ramp (I hope they still are). You need a surveyor in the agency that knows the value of them and who will insist that this gets done as part of the construction project. The cost of referencing off the marks and putting something new back in is minimal compared to building the ramps.
Tom Adams, post: 380210, member: 7285 wrote: Does the boundary follow the creep, or does it stay in the same geographic location. If an offset was set on the top of the curb, does the property corner stay the same distance from the offset mark? I mean the property probably creeped the same amount as the curb, and the movement is slow and imperceptible..... I'm thinking it would move with the creep.
If they later moved the curb, the property would stay where it last "creeped" to.?
In 2013 one party tried to apply this California "earthquake" law: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&group=00001-01000&file=751.50-751.65
to a situation where their house was on a slow moving land slide. See http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1644364.html .
The single best line in that case describes a condition that calls for filing a change of address form with the USPS: "Sometime between 1956 and 1987, two homes that were originally located north of the roadway on Lots 40 and 41 migrated approximately 300 feet south of the roadway and on to Lot 1. Those homes are now located at 40 and 41 Cherryhill Lane." !!!
The new residents of 40 and 41 Cherryhill lost their case.
BajaOR, post: 380390, member: 9139 wrote: In 2013 one party tried to apply this California "earthquake" law: http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=ccp&group=00001-01000&file=751.50-751.65
to a situation where their house was on a slow moving land slide. See http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ca-court-of-appeal/1644364.html .
The single best line in that case describes a condition that calls for filing a change of address form with the USPS: "Sometime between 1956 and 1987, two homes that were originally located north of the roadway on Lots 40 and 41 migrated approximately 300 feet south of the roadway and on to Lot 1. Those homes are now located at 40 and 41 Cherryhill Lane." !!!
The new residents of 40 and 41 Cherryhill lost their case.
Joannou v. City of Rancho Palos Verdes, 219 Cal. App. 4th 746
Kent McMillan, post: 380213, member: 3 wrote: Those danged ADA ramps have destroyed an incredible number of survey marks in downtown Austin. I'm glad to hear that they've moved to California to continue the work:
"The city of Hayward removed the offset curb, which lies at an intersection, to make way for a wheelchair accessible ramp."
Baltimore (and many other cities, presumably) lost much of its block control when ADA ramps were built. It is another unfortunate truth to have known that they could have been restored, corner for corner, had there been some coordination between DPW divisions. Many of the markers were lead and tack set in drill holes, with swing ties booked to building faces and corners, etc.
What ever happened to the poster in ca who had his driveway sliding downhill because of highway construction?
It was probably on the old site.