Kent, I don't see "proper use of a parasol" on that list...
I haven't seen any mention of AFP.
Nice. I'm thinking maybe a MAINTAIN section is in order.
> true true - i figgered i was missing something there
Actually, there is a surprising amount of information available that can help a surveyor distinguish between different rebars of the same nominal size and estimate dates of manufacture.
For example, I was working on a project a couple of years ago where a rebar monument was about 0.8 ft. away from where I would have expected the corner to have been marked in the late 1920's based upon other corner markers found. A marker at the corner in question had evidently been recovered in 1957. After examining the rebar, it was clear that it had been made after 1976 and so couldn't be either the mark placed in the 1920's or recovered in 1957. We pulled it, chopped through some roots and finally found
a bolt about 12 inches further down that I can believe was 1920's-vintage.
The clue as to the age of the rebar was an identifying mark on it that any surveyor ought to know about.
Maybe also a RESEARCH section, which could provide not only methods of research, but sources as well.
Measure
> Nice. I'm thinking maybe a MAINTAIN section is in order.
To me, it seems logical to group everything related to the measuring and observing aspects of surveying together. Calibrating and testing measuring instruments such as total stations and levels is definitely a part of measuring, in my view.
> I don't see "proper use of a parasol" on that list...
Hasn't Andy J. been a staunch advocate for that? Actually, if anyone knows how to keep a parasol from blowing over and taking the instrument with it, or how to set it up in rocky ground, I'd be interested to read about it.
And that AFB comment reminds me, I'll probably repurpose the rplsfaq.com website to a personal site when I get around to it.
> I haven't seen any mention of AFP.
Yes, but it isn't clear whether the foil hat belongs in the MEASURE or the PRESERVE category. Presumably the AFP preserves the mind of the surveyor from alien thought forms radiating through the ether, but then so does beer.
> Maybe also a RESEARCH section, which could provide not only methods of research, but sources as well.
Yes, you could divide the DIG category into subsections. As envisioned, "Dig" means digging through piles of papers and reels of microfilmed records as well as actual work with a shovel in the dirt. It's generally the investigative aspect of surveying.
Ah yes, good point. 🙂
Measure
Agreed.
DAVE KAROLY
I think that was on the old board. I can't find it right now.
My brain is a little fried today.
DAVE KAROLY
One thing I do remember: Don't worry about things outside of your control because there will be a lot of them. Do the best job you can keeping in mind the best interests of the public you work for. A friend told me years ago, "Dave you gotta roll with the punches."
Dig: I would like to see photos of iron pipes of various ages and in stages of decay (to help in judging age)
Dig: field guide to decorative wire fences (found an old one in a cemetery survey and would like to identify era)
Preserve: best practices for *reporting* measurements, i.e. long lines with ties to intermediate irons, ...or different bearings along each segment since the mons were "set in good faith and relied upon"
Measure: typical location procedures for old-time crews before the digital age (laying the chain out and using the 90 glass for plusses)
DAVE KAROLY
> A friend told me years ago, "Dave you gotta roll with the punches."
Did he tell you that while he was beating you up?
> Dig: I would like to see photos of iron pipes of various ages and in stages of decay (to help in judging age)
I suspect that the corrosion of pipes will vary so much with soil moisture, pH, and/or salinity that it would be very difficult to generalize.
The way that pipe was made, however, can be a pretty good clue as to age.
> Dig: field guide to decorative wire fences (found an old one in a cemetery survey and would like to identify era)
That's a good idea to include woven wire fences and the decorative wire fences used for yard fencing, among other things.
