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not-my-real-name
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I learned a long time ago to always survey the block so that any excess or deficiency in the distances may be distributed equitably for all the properties on that block.

Well, I did just that on a recent project. The only thing is, other surveys (not recorded) were done, and marked by deed distances.

This leaves my client with a deficiency of approximately ten feet.

There is very little to be done about the situation now except to remind surveyors that a more equitable solution would be more considerate.?ÿ

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 7:17 am
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Or, as in a case I found, the client received over 30 feet of excess.

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 7:26 am
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How does someone get a block size wrong by 10 feet? Is this a typical block size? Aren't there other adjoining blocks of similar size? Perhaps I just have the wrong picture in my head.

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 10:08 am
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I guess it depends if I found any of the corners already set.?ÿ I'd probably hold those instead of proportioning the shortage

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 10:17 am
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Posted by: @lurker

How does someone get a block size wrong by 10 feet?

My guess is that they never actually surveyed the block.

Probably the first substandard surveyor located two or three "monuments" along the ROW and rotated in the record dimensions of the platted lot, then slammed rods home. Others follow, find those rods, rinse and repeat down the line.

@not-my-real-name I'm sure you already checked into this, but are there any occupation lines that could help out your client?

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 10:22 am
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Here is a real world example of how this can happen.?ÿ First consider we are talking land that was opened for settlement in 1865.?ÿ By 1865 a town was platted covering a full quarter section of land.?ÿ By 1868 the west half of the quarter section to the east of that was platted as an addition to the first town.?ÿ The 1868 plat has blocks and streets that total to precisely 1320 feet by 2640 feet.?ÿ The first sales of lots are near the center of the west line.?ÿ Development grew slowly to the north-south and east with the last tracts sold being on those extremes.?ÿ No one bothered to determine the true perimeter of the platted 80 acre (plus/minus) tract.?ÿ The row of blocks on the east are all long (east to west) by varying amounts.?ÿ The lots adjoining the far north side of the plat are where you can find the extra 30 feet.

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 10:37 am
not-my-real-name
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@rover83?ÿ

The place has been vacant for many years, and it is a wild land.

If there is any occupation, it is by the neighbors encroachment.

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 11:48 am
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Posted by: @not-my-real-name

I learned a long time ago to always survey the block so that any excess or deficiency in the distances may be distributed equitably for all the properties on that block.

Well, I did just that on a recent project. The only thing is, other surveys (not recorded) were done, and marked by deed distances.

This leaves my client with a deficiency of approximately ten feet.

There is very little to be done about the situation now except to remind surveyors that a more equitable solution would be more considerate.?ÿ

I'd liked to see a copy of the map showing the block and lots.?ÿ If you think the other surveyors are wrong do what you think is right based on your states laws and be prepared to defend it.

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 1:20 pm
not-my-real-name
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@fairbanksls?ÿ

Scan 0002
 
Posted : 14/07/2022 2:41 pm
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Neat Old Plat/Map?ÿ 1890s?

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Maybe provide the information too for your client to seek a rebate for the taxes theyve been paying on more land that they don't own for however theyve owned it.?ÿ Seems like they would have case,but then again, suing the government never really pays very well.....

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 4:29 pm
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@jitterboogie?ÿ

Bingo! (1892).

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 4:54 pm
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Lot 254 would be a booger to survey compared to most of the others.

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 6:21 pm
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@not-my-real-name

Thanks for posting the century old cartoon. Iƒ??d rely heavily on monumentation and occupation which is the best evidence of ownership. ?ÿSomedays it sucks, but we did ask for it.

 
Posted : 14/07/2022 7:54 pm