This afternoon I was working on a topo survey with my robot when a crew from an out-of-town company parked nearby to eat lunch. One of their guys wandered over to see what I was up to, and we chatted for awhile about business, equipment, the weather and other matters of mutual interest. After a bit I allowed as how I ought to get back to work, and resumed picking up points. Maybe 20 minutes later I glanced at my robot and it didn't seem to be pointing at me. I looked in the general direction it was aiming and saw that the other crew had leaned their prism pole against their truck. So I checked the map on my data collector and saw that I had 41 shots to their 360 prism. That's when I decided to call it a day.
Someone should come up with surveyor term for that situation
Like the military expression Friendly Fire or...
There is name for that. I'd tell you what it is but there aren't enough punctuation marks on my keyboard.
You were caught by the "art of misdirection"
:8ball:
Robert Hill, post: 414485, member: 378 wrote: Someone should come up with surveyor term for that situation
Like the military expression Friendly Fire or...
When your robot repeated returns to the wrong target: recidiprism.
Blue falcon is what we called that.
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Since I've been using the Trimble Active Target with index number that problem has gone away. It will not see a prism unless I choose a prism target.
One of the things we discussed was instrument theft. The other fellow said that in October 2015 he was about 200 feet from his (well, his employer's ) Trimble VX when it jumped into a van and sped away. A $90k ouch. I showed him how I lock up my robot.
I would like too see your setup for locking the robot, if you have a pic handy!
Survey Pro has a "duplicate shot detection" option. If you shoot the same point twice in a row it notices and informs you.
Mark Mayer, post: 414531, member: 424 wrote: Survey Pro has a "duplicate shot detection" option. If you shoot the same point twice in a row it notices and informs you.
Access also has this, but with the active prism I don't often need it.
Mark Mayer, post: 414531, member: 424 wrote: Survey Pro has a "duplicate shot detection" option. If you shoot the same point twice in a row it notices and informs you.
That would have been handy this afternoon. But I often take two shots on the same point when ending one string and beginning another (e.g. end of concrete, beginning of AC), so I might find it annoying more often than not.
Stephen Ward, post: 414534, member: 1206 wrote: Access also has this, but with the active prism I don't often need it.
Really?
I don't know that feature ... you're not speaking about points with the same nr or name?
Christof.
It was not your affiable nature, that sunk the catamaran.
It was the non discriminatory nature of your socializing robot, that raised the lake, into an "out of bounds" situation.
I can see this situation could apply to humans, although in your case, that does not seem immanent.
My best thoughts are to teach that robot a lesson, and get her an upgrade, so she will discriminate a little more!
Or, find someone who will.
If robots could talk...
You: shoot me here...
Robot: ok....um, what a pretty reflection...
You: ok, shoot me here..
Robot: jus a sec, i think i saw myself, in the window across the street...
Is there a mechanism, to upgrade your robot? Or, is this a permanent limitation?
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Jim Frame, post: 414484, member: 10 wrote: This afternoon I was working on a topo survey with my robot when a crew from an out-of-town company parked nearby to eat lunch. One of their guys wandered over to see what I was up to, and we chatted for awhile about business, equipment, the weather and other matters of mutual interest. After a bit I allowed as how I ought to get back to work, and resumed picking up points. Maybe 20 minutes later I glanced at my robot and it didn't seem to be pointing at me. I looked in the general direction it was aiming and saw that the other crew had leaned their prism pole against their truck. So I checked the map on my data collector and saw that I had 41 shots to their 360 prism. That's when I decided to call it a day.
The first job my dad really used a robot on was a big as built I was working on solo. This was in 2009-ish. He took the rod and I coached him on watch to see if particular numbers move and if they don't, it's hung on something else. Every shot from that setup (thankfully it was only like 20) was 0.006' different and a reflector of a car. Once in the office, I reminded him that we'd had that conversation and that his lack of attention to detail was the reason for the go-back and next time to be more careful. He was not enthused about receiving the same "talk" he'd given (to me and others) so many times before.
I feel your pain.
Jim Frame, post: 414524, member: 10 wrote: One of the things we discussed was instrument theft. The other fellow said that in October 2015 he was about 200 feet from his (well, his employer's ) Trimble VX when it jumped into a van and sped away. A $90k ouch. I showed him how I lock up my robot.
I've not had a problem with my VX being molested, but I tend to "carry" and would use my force multiplier to keep that theft from happening.
Jim Frame, post: 414536, member: 10 wrote: I often take two shots on the same point when ending one string and beginning another (e.g. end of concrete, beginning of AC), so I might find it annoying more often than not.
Not so much. It's just a box that pops up that can be dismissed with a click. I point out that with C3d's F2f (also with Carlson's) you can end one line and begin another on the same point, negating the need to take 2 shots in those situations.
Jim Frame, post: 414536, member: 10 wrote: That would have been handy this afternoon. But I often take two shots on the same point when ending one string and beginning another (e.g. end of concrete, beginning of AC), so I might find it annoying more often than not.
How do you process your field to finish? We use Carlson and they have an option to split mult codes. Which really saves time ,no need to take two shots on the same point just add a space between the codes. EC end AC beg would be the code which would be one shot not two. It also makes the line work look a lot better as well, no need to trim or extend a line.
Mark Mayer, post: 414531, member: 424 wrote: Survey Pro has a "duplicate shot detection" option. If you shoot the same point twice in a row it notices and informs you.
Leica has the same feature dating back to smart works
Scott Ellis, post: 414567, member: 7154 wrote: How do you process your field to finish? We use Carlson and they have an option to split mult codes. Which really saves time ,no need to take two shots on the same point just add a space between the codes. EC end AC beg would be the code which would be one shot not two. It also makes the line work look a lot better as well, no need to trim or extend a line.
I'm just in the process of switching from Viva to Captivate. Captivate's multi-code option creates 2 points from the same shot.