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(@dave-lindell)
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@mike-marks: And the results are probably the same in each case.

 
Posted : 26/01/2021 11:05 am
(@holy-cow)
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@dave-lindell

Had a fellow running for State Attorney General who had been billing out more than 24 hours per day regularly.?ÿ He lost.?ÿ Of course, I'm sure it would have been a tremendous cut in pay anyway.

 
Posted : 26/01/2021 11:26 am
(@jim-frame)
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Update on the case:?ÿ the judge issued a tentative decision holding that my survey correctly locates the disputed line based on the agreed boundary doctrine.?ÿ It'll be a couple of months before the judgment is finalized, and the plaintiff will then have 60 days to appeal, but I'm celebrating anyway.

 
Posted : 22/02/2021 12:26 pm
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Update on the case:?ÿ the judge issued a tentative decision holding that my survey correctly locates the disputed line based on the agreed boundary doctrine.?ÿ It'll be a couple of months before the judgment is finalized, and the plaintiff will then have 60 days to appeal, but I'm celebrating anyway.

 
Posted : 22/02/2021 12:26 pm
(@lurker)
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Chalk one up for the good guys.

 
Posted : 22/02/2021 12:53 pm
(@charlie_wagner)
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@jim-frame Is there any notation on the original 1876 plat indicating that it is no longer valid based on the several iterations of the Official Map? If not, how would a surveyor be able to track down the correct lot dimensions? Since the block lines are not in question, how did the jurisdiction change the lot dimension by 5.5ƒ??? ?ÿBy occupation or where the interior lots prorated based on the block monumentation? ?ÿSorry for all the questions but Iƒ??m having a difficult time understanding how a jurisdiction, at their whim, can modify an original subdivision.

 
Posted : 23/02/2021 8:12 pm
(@jim-frame)
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An authoritative answer to your question is lost to history, I'm afraid.?ÿ I have a hunch that the line in question was monumented at the location now marked by the fence as part of the estate distribution that predates the subdivision plat, and that the estate plat dimension was wrong from the start.?ÿ But I have no direct evidence to support that, it's just the only rational explanation I can come up with.

 
Posted : 25/02/2021 12:51 pm
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Posted : 07/04/2021 7:16 pm
(@jitterboogie)
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COngrats!!!!

 
Posted : 07/04/2021 7:32 pm
 Jed
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@jim-frame??? this thread is why I have no desire to get licensed and work in the woods...less people

 
Posted : 07/04/2021 9:57 pm
(@vasurvey3004)
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@jim-frame The stress is real!!!!?ÿ I was recently deposed as an expert witness and almost lost my cool a few times with the plaintiffs attorney.?ÿ

A four hour depo over an embankment failure.?ÿ Where the plaintiffs who were sons that inherited properties adjoining their fathers 92 year old business partner.?ÿ

A river embankment failed where a private drive along the bluff?ÿ crossed my 92 year old clients property.?ÿ They sued him to move road and encumber and additional 50 feet of his property from the bluff.

Anyway the plaintiffs attorney asked me every question in 15 different ways.

Questioning how many pecan trees, mullberry or magnolia trees existed that where shown on the 1965 conveyance plat.?ÿ Which thankfully I noted during my survey, but had no relevance to my survey as they were located on the opposite side of the property.?ÿ ?ÿAnd still took up 30 minutes of the deposition.?ÿ?ÿ

During the survey my client indicated that he already moved the road about 11 feet on his property away from the bluff in the 90s.?ÿ I took my spare and dug down about a foot through top soil and hit asphalt and gravel.?ÿ I did this in several locations.?ÿ The plaintiffs attorney asked me if I could quantify the about of gravel/asphalt I exposed. And how I came to the conclusion that there was an old road bed right along the top of the bluff.

My response was a spade full and 30 years surveying experience.

Much to the plaintiffs attorney's dismay.?ÿ I requested a break every hour on the hour.

I'm better suited for the woods not the attorneys office.

 
Posted : 14/04/2021 10:23 pm
(@chris-mills)
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I've only just got around to looking at this thread. I, too, hate all the hassle of court apprearancers so I try to point them towards mutual agreement by quoting my charge-out rate for Court Time as "75% of the representing lawyer's rate".

Tends to work wonders -the lawyer dare not tell the client that my rate is extortionate, so has to accept it. There is then great pressure on the lawyer to ensure that I don't have to claim that rate.

Try it!

 
Posted : 15/04/2021 6:15 am
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Posted by: @chris-mills

quoting my charge-out rate for Court Time as "75% of the representing lawyer's rate"

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I love this!

 
Posted : 15/04/2021 2:57 pm
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@brad-ott . What is the normal rate for this type of thing? I usually do 125 per

And try to get a just show up fee without being supeoned of 250. These are in South Carolina. Am I selling my 36 years in the woods to cheap?

  • Lost a long time client today because I went up 18 percent or so for his development work.
 
Posted : 15/04/2021 10:30 pm
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@samlucy3874, well I do not have normal courtroom rates, but my every day rates are $175-225/ office hour and $250/ solo field hour.

EDIT: ?ÿI think I heard an expert witness in a current MN trial say that his rate is $300 per hour.

 
Posted : 16/04/2021 4:37 am
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