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Surveying Dallas-1927-style; Koch & Fowler

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I'm looking at a plat of a subdivision in Austin, Texas that was prepared in 1927 by the Dallas, Texas engineering firm of Koch & Fowler and I have just one question for any of the Dallas surveyors: What the hell is wrong with Dallas?!? This is more like a "plat kit" that a surveyor could sit down with and eventually work out most of the missing elements from what little is given on the plat. If they did a bunch more intensely curvilinear subdivision plats in Dallas County like this one in Austin, you have my sympathy. What an unbelievable mess for such an upscale subdivision.

 
Posted : June 13, 2013 9:37 pm
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> I'm looking at a plat of a subdivision in Austin, Texas that was prepared in 1927 by the Dallas, Texas engineering firm of Koch & Fowler and I have just one question for any of the Dallas surveyors: What the hell is wrong with Dallas?!? This is more like a "plat kit" that a surveyor could sit down with and eventually work out most of the missing elements from what little is given on the plat. If they did a bunch more intensely curvilinear subdivision plats in Dallas County like this one in Austin, you have my sympathy. What an unbelievable mess for such an upscale subdivision.

I've run across a few of those myself. Never fun. BTW, I suspect the "Koch" family in that name is still a part of the current business of "Pacheco Koch".

 
Posted : June 14, 2013 5:32 am
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> I've run across a few of those myself. Never fun. BTW, I suspect the "Koch" family in that name is still a part of the current business of "Pacheco Koch".

The land plan itself is fairly nice. Most of the streets are these sweeping curves laid out to follow various features and that wasn't that simple to do using the methods of 1927. However, by omitting the usual survey data from the plat, it means you have to recompute good bits of it. Considering the computational methods of 1927, that almost seems designed to make sure that only Koch & Fowler were able to survey lots on the plat they'd created.

If parts of Dallas are covered with similar subdivisions, that has to be an experience if the Dallas City Engineer didn't monument the centerlines of the streets and prepare plans showing all the elements that the plat didn't.

 
Posted : June 14, 2013 5:59 am
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I've seen the same thing here in MD...... older plats with barely more than lines and **if one is lucky** some legible numbers.

 
Posted : June 14, 2013 6:05 am