I'm using a Trimble TSC3 with Survey Pro 5.1. If I locate a point with the instrument, that point cannot be edited. The only points that can be individually edited are ones that have been entered or imported.
For instance, I start a new job for a project. I go through the site and establish my control points, then go through with a digital level to get good elevations on my control. I then can't edit each individual elevation nor can I delete the point from the file to re-enter it.
My options are:
1)translate blocks of points (which defeats the point of running a level loop),
2)download the job into a desktop, edit the points in the desk top, delete the job from the data collector and re-import it into the data collector (confusion for the field crew as you add control points later on),
3)manually copy each coord to a new point number with the revised elevation(once again, the confusion thing).
Have any of you run into this yet? If so, have you found a run around for it? This could cause some very expensive mistakes on a construction staking project. There is no setting in the software to change this. My dealer told me is how the new software is programed.
Thanks in advance for any input.
Phillip
Try picking on the point on the screen, but when you pick it, hold down on it and see if an edit point screen pops up.
I can open up the edit screen, but it will only let me edit certain points. If the point has been located with the instrument, it will let you veiw the point but not edit it....like in the 'Veiw Points' screen.
What if you were to create a new job and tag that last job as a a control file, would that be a work around to let you edit ?
I'll try that and see if it works. So far, the simpliest thing is to dump it in the computer, edit the points in the computer, delete the job from the DC, start a new job with the same job number in the DC, and re-import the points.
I personally think the guys calling the shots at these surveying software companies should be required to run a field crew for a couple of years before turning this junk out. The more simple it is in the field, the less chance a mistake is going to happen.
I agree.
Seems like every time new software is introduced it's harder to use and the good stuff from previous versions is gone/or replaced by harder to use methods.
> I can open up the edit screen, but it will only let me edit certain points. If the point has been located with the instrument, it will let you veiw the point but not edit it....like in the 'Veiw Points' screen.
It was a long shot. In Trimbles scs program it will not let you edit a collected point through the edit point screen, but it will if you pick the point and hold it down.
I havent used the TDS in a while, sounds like Trimble is ruining it also.
I had the same issues with it. Called Spectra and got the response you did; that's the way it's programmed. My workaround: went down to 4.11. I really liked the new features of 5.1, especially the addition of the customizable home screen. I won't be upgrading to 5.X until this is resolved...not holding my breath. If Carlson would support my S6 I would make the switch, but Trimble won't share the drivers.
Wes
I am a firm believer that I should be able to do absolutely anything I want while working with my data collector. If the designers want to put safety features in the program, there should always be the option of tuning them off. My software should be subject to my wishes, not the other way around.
> My software should be subject to my wishes, not the other way around.
You need to embrace Trimble's philosophy, to wit: "If you want to use our hardware and software, you'll do things our way and pay dearly for the privilege. By the way, your warranty is about to expire; please remit a large sum of money immediately. You're welcome, glad we could help."
I agree, Jim.
The TDS "upgrades" to SurveyPro have left me disappointed with the big "T".
I agree, Jim.
I still have the 4.71 install.... New tds is one the best things that ever happen to survCE.
As v. 5.1 will allow alpha-numeric points, I'd go to the point you want to edit, enter point number plus a suffix such as R1, El, etc., whatever, change the elevation, then store it as a new point. That way it does leave a legacy as far as point of origin and adjusted values.
I haven't used it yet, but would imagine it has something to do with keeping raw data and collected points so they match up.
I have used Trimble Gear in the past, and it was pretty good stuff, however I have never been a big fan of the "maintenance agreements".
I have TDS Survey Pro on two Ranger data collectors. I have no plans to upgrade. If and when the data collectors stop working, I will be going with a Carlson SurvCE, on a full size data collector.
Being a solo operator for the most part, it is just not in the overall plan to shell out huge sums of money for the maintenance agreements for Trimble, AutoDesk, or anyone else.
I hate the fact that Trimble is buying up almost everything in the surveying industry from TDS to Seco to Crain. Very disappointing. Next they will want us to purchase maintenance agreements for our tripods and prism poles.
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That stinks. I was just going to send in my DC to get the 5.1 upgrade.
One work around my be to select your point, do an "insert" (which will create a new point that retains all point info that you had selected), then edit the new point. The downside is that you have will have multiple points.
I have been using version 5 since about January with a large amount of Construction Staking. My dealer informed me that this is now vector based and very similar to Trimble access. What I do is copy the point and remote elevation it since I only need to do it with occupied points. Then I use a Suffix like _TS. Ideally one should copy the point with a suffix and then delete the original point.
Survey pro 5.1....
So SurveyPro is officially busted??? Sounds that way.
It really is a shame to see such a well run outfit become "trimbled." I am happy to move forward with Carlson, it was the obvious choice to use with Carlson Survey as my drafting platform.
