I am familiar with the different ways of subdividing sections (single proportion, double proportion...) but I am curious how the western sections of a township are divided?ÿ to account for the the last 40 being long or short.?ÿ As an example I have a property that includes the bottom four 40's of section 18 in my township.?ÿ The first three forties coming from the east are standard forties but the last one is 44 acres.?ÿ How would the quarter quarter be calculated in this instance??ÿ Would it be a 2640 from the SE corner, the SESW be 1320, and the SWSW be whatever the remaining distance was??ÿ Am I being too simplistic and there is much more to this??ÿ Any education would be greatly appreciated.?ÿ ?ÿThanks.
You basically have it correct. 2640, 1320 then the remainder, if are prorating in the S1/4 the dimensions of course will not fit 2640, and 1320, they will be a ratio of the record total distance against the measured total distance. M/R x 2640.
All that depends on the notes and plats, so be careful and read what they say.?ÿ
You need to look at what the record USRS plat did/didn't do.?ÿ
And you need to read the Manual of Survey Instructions that was in effect when the sections were created.
And you need to research the record to see if there was any survey activity after the USRS.
And single and double proportion are for re-establishing lost corners when there is absolutely no better alternative. Proportioning is?ÿ not for subdividing anything.?ÿ
While I agree with the cautions, there is a fine point to consider on proportioning.
The lots on the closing side of sections are rarely 20 chains. When subdividing the section for the first time you have to use proportionate measure to establish the last 1/16th / lot corner along the closing line.
We are definitely in agreement you don't want to 're-subdivide' the section by applying mathemagical violence over the prior surveys and actions of the owners.
If you find the southeast corner of Lot 4 has an iron pipe 2' from your prorate I would strongly advise it being considered as the corner. Also don't forget that any east-west prorate needs to be curved.?ÿ ??ÿ
Hopefully you don't acutally need to prorate anything, but there are different kinds of lands out there. Some have lots of history, some have very little, I just finished a couple of sections and there isn't any legitimate occupation or evidence of prior surveys. So those sections got the math treatment when subdivided.?ÿ
Thanks for all of the replies.?ÿ I was able to find out that the original survey notes indicate that the line from the SE of 18 to the SW of 18 was 5527.5'.?ÿ As I mentioned, those corners were recently re-set by surveyors as part of project work for two townships and the distance between the corners now measures 5522,9;.?ÿ As I also mentioned, I know all of the forties on the west side of this section are supposed to be long forties (tax bills, etc) but on the original notes it says the quarter section post was set at 43.75 chains which would be west of the midpoint so I am confused.?ÿ I am trying to find the 1/4 section.
This is all wild land that hasn't had any survey work done in the area in a very long time and all of the evidence is long gone.?ÿ There is a gravel road on the east line of both 18 and 19 and there is a paved road on the south side of 19.?ÿ Otherwise this is all just woods and swamp.
Any more help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Thanks for all of the replies.?ÿ I was able to find out that the original survey notes indicate that the line from the SE of 18 to the SW of 18 was 5527.5'.?ÿ As I mentioned, those corners were recently re-set by surveyors as part of project work for two townships and the distance between the corners now measures 5522,9;.?ÿ As I also mentioned, I know all of the forties on the west side of this section are supposed to be long forties (tax bills, etc) but on the original notes it says the quarter section post was set at 43.75 chains which would be west of the midpoint so I am confused.?ÿ I am trying to find the 1/4 section.
This is all wild land that hasn't had any survey work done in the area in a very long time and all of the evidence is long gone.?ÿ There is a gravel road on the east line of both 18 and 19 and there is a paved road on the south side of 19.?ÿ Otherwise this is all just woods and swamp.
Any more help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
The 43.75 is the returning dimension, that would be 5527.5-2640/66. Placing it 2640 from the SE corner. I think you may want some help on this one.
This is all wild land that hasn't had any survey work done in the area in a very long time and all of the evidence is long gone.?ÿ?ÿ
I hope you are saying this after thorough search.?ÿ If you are just assuming this is the case, it may come back to haunt you.?ÿ
Your question sounds like very basic PLSS stuff, but getting advise from the internet from people without the full set of facts is also dangerous. I would suggest talking to someone in your area that is willing to help.?ÿ
Everybody encounters this Catch-22 sometime in their career.?ÿ We are not supposed to work outside our area of expertise, but the only way to get the expertise is to do the work. My advise is to proceed with caution and use as many of the available resources as you can.?ÿ
