Got a call from a surveyor in another state not licensed in my state. He bought a lot in a local county and wanted to know if I would stake out a line on the subdivision lot. Subdivision being acreage not 1/2 acre. Said he found the front two pins and wanted to know how much to 'turn angle down line'? I gave him a price which he choked on and I proceeded to explain that I would not feel comfortable just turning an angle down line. I wonder if I am off base or if anyone else has encountered something similar. I was under the impression that two points define a line and in order to put a stake on-line you needed the two points for that line, not two secondary points.
I would not do it. Any surveyor should know better than ask.
I thought so too, just wanted a confirmation of my gut feeling I guess.
very unprofessional of him to even ask.. no way I'd do anything like that.
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Andy and Cliff are exactly right. Makes one wonder about his professionalism where he does live and work.
Larry P
Being that small of a lot, did he expect it would take more time to find the rear corner?
I wasn't really clear in my statement earlier. It is a parcel of land greater than 1 acre, not 1/2 acre lot. I assume he just wanted to have a scapegoat if his 'method' didn't work like it should. Seeing surveyors become more of a scapegoat for hire or on projects more than anything else these days.
> Makes one wonder about his professionalism where he does live and work.
Someone's got to create the pin cushions; otherwise Wendell's number of post would drop substantially
It Is His Lot, What Can A Landowner Do In GA ?
Since he found front corners he could bring his own equipment to look for the back.
As a courtesy I might agree to accompany him as looks for adjacent off lot rear corners for possible ties to his, since he has no right of tresspass.
If he balks at looking for adjoining monuments, walk away fast.
Paul in PA
He's asking you to do something you're not comfortable with and sign your name to it. You wouldn't do that for anyone else, and his being a surveyor should have nothing to do with it.
A prime example of surveyors eating their own young!
And yet we wonder why we get no respect.
Are the back corners supposed to be there or never set. If he is just looking for his own corners and not trying to set them why can't he turn his own angles and search. I'd think any landowner has the right to search for his own corners no license needed. It's probably a good idea to have a professional verify, especially if things seem out of whack. Yeah, if the line needs to be set then a surveyor is needed along with the consent of the adjoining landowners.
By being a surveyor, does that mean he was tail chainman on a seismic crew back in '76? LOL. Wonder if his name shows up on the BOR roster?
He bought a lot without the benefit of a survey???? Rrrreeeeaaalllllyyyyyy? 😉
Our Lady of Assumption rides again!!!!
What you have is a classical case of assumption.
He assumes you are willing to do low down stuff.
You assume that because he is a surveyor, that he will be an "Understanding Client".
You are simply having assumption problems!!
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> Got a call from a surveyor in another state ...wanted to know how much to 'turn angle down line'?
Let me guess, was this other state Oklahoma?
Ha!! that's funny....no it wasn't Oklahoma! But that is funny you would suspect that. The state shall remain nameless and so will his name...but I think we have all learned that if we aren't willing to pay to do it right...why would the public. The terrain is such that I am about 85%-95% certain that you can't see the back pins from the front...don't know if they are really in...and I am not willing to spend half a day in the hills wheezing for less than what I quoted...PERIOD!! If someone else wants to skirt that line great...but not me. I have better things to do than loose money...I have already made plenty of mistakes that cost me some greenbacks. Don't need to go into a situation starting off on the wrong foot.
Thank you
That was the first thought that blazed through my mind. A surveyor who does not know the value of a survey should not be a surveyor.
As a surveyor, if I bought a piece of land, even in another state, I wouldn't think twice about finding whatever corner monuments I could and set up on a monument and turn the angle to help me look for another monument, or to even see the calculated direction down the other line. When it came time to set or recover the actual property pins, I would hire a local land surveyor and show him what I found.
That begs at least one other question....if he looked for and found two "front" corners, how does he know they are the correct corners, and where he was supposed to look? And why didn't he look for the back corners while he was up there. I would be suspicious that this guy is someone who either worked on a crew at one time in his life, or thinks he knows enough to think he can convince a surveyor he knows what he is talking about. I would highly doubt that this was a licensed surveyor in any state (even Oklahoma) 😉