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(@mightymoe)
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Pulled a rebar yesterday. It was about 10 feet from the corner math position and there is no history for it since my client is giving up his occupation of the land. Don't do very often, but sometimes you gotta get the channel locks out.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 7:22 am
 jph
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I've known some who use rebar for GPS control.?ÿ I've found it within 10' of a corner.?ÿ Fine while the plastic cap is intact, but it'll cause some confusion after it's mauled or gone

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 8:47 am
(@williwaw)
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48" Hi-lift jack works great for plucking those suckers.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 9:10 am
(@norman-oklahoma)
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I routinely use capped rebar for control points. And so do lots of other people around here. Oregon law calls for 5/8" rebar as property corners, I use 1/2" for my control/traverse points.?ÿ

Vice grips for pulling bars. Once you get the bar turned 1 or 2 rotations it usually slips out easily after that.?ÿ But I can't remember ever pulling someone else's bar.

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 9:17 am
(@mightymoe)
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@williwaw?ÿ

I hit it with the 6 pounder a couple of times, grabbed it with the pliers and yanked it out. It was a long one too, 30". Not sure what was going on with it, it may have been a 1991 era survey, but I match that guy within a few tenths every time, of course I always accept him. Maybe it was an old control point. Difficult to know but it's too close to the corner position to leave it there.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 10:09 am
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@mightymoe I can count on one hand the number I've pulled in 20 years but usually same situation. One engineering firm around here was using them for random traverse points and paid little attention to setting them in close proximity to legitimate corners. Once the caps came off they were a hazard and had thrown me for a loop and cost me significant time more than once. I called them on it but they didn't care since the headaches they created were not theirs.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 10:17 am
(@ekillo)
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Back in the 60's when I worked for the power company, they had a contract survey crew stake a bunch of lake lots and they made a mistake setting the irons and we had to pull a bunch of them up.?ÿ We had a washer welded to a chain and the chain welded to a bumper jack, all we had to do was slip the washer over the rebar and the friction was able to pull the rebar.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 11:53 am
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@ekillo?ÿ

I learned some time ago while staking property lines not to leave a control point near line. Either put them on line, have them way off somewhere, or hide them if you have to have them close.?ÿ

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 12:51 pm
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@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

I love you, man, but please don't do that.....if you ever happen to work in New England

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 3:10 pm
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@norman-oklahoma

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I routinely use capped rebar for control points. And so do lots of other people around here. Oregon law calls for 5/8" rebar as property corners, I use 1/2" for my control/traverse points.?ÿ

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I love you, man, but please don't do that.....if you ever happen to work in New England

Well, OR is a recording state, and a random rebar with no reference and no cap is just a random rebar.?ÿ

What Norman describes is pretty standard. I have had to admonish some of my coworkers to take care when setting control points close to the line. I usually tell them to drive them below grade. If a surveyor finds them, and have my survey, they should be good. If a home owner finds them...who knows.

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 6:38 pm
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Posted by: @jph

I love you, man, but please don't do that.....if you ever happen to work in New England

If I didn't work in a recording state I suppose I might have to re-examine the practice. But here it's not a big problem.?ÿ And like I said, I'm not the only one doing it.?ÿ

Or were you talking about twisting irons out of the ground??ÿ

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 6:55 pm
(@dave-karoly)
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Almost all the rebar control points I have seen have a cap stamped ƒ??Control Point.ƒ?

 
Posted : 30/11/2021 6:58 pm
(@bryan-newsome)
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Pipe wrench works well for pulling.

 
Posted : 01/12/2021 11:31 am
(@oldpacer)
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45 years in and never felt it necessary to pull someone iron up. Cussed, spit and kicked a few, but who am I??ÿ Why not pull up the one's 3 feet off or even 0.2 feet away??ÿ

 
Posted : 01/12/2021 11:50 am
(@mightymoe)
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@oldpacer?ÿ

One corner, one monument. The client doesn't need a bunch of junk around his corner.

We pulled 4 on one lot corner earlier this summer, only one of them was of record and the surveyor asked us to remove it, what the others were is speculation as none of them were the original pipes and none of them made any sense (possibly some rebar for fence tie downs). The one I pulled Monday was probably a surveyor I followed in the area, but he is long gone and no one ever used or even saw his monument. He didn't record anything so......

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Posted : 01/12/2021 12:40 pm
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