Is there only one Section 32, Township 16N, Range 4W in Oklahoma? Where is it?
> Is there only one Section 32, Township 16N, Range 4W in Oklahoma? Where is it?
Yes, there is only 1.
It is just about 9-15 miles west of Guthrie, OK and sits astride the Cimarron River.
Cimarron City is in Section 2 of that township.
The Center of the section is at N 35.820411° & W 97.6476054° NAD 83, per Google Earth.
B-)
Only one..
Think it's Logan County. Has to be 4 West of the Indian Meridian as there are no Townships west of the Cimarron Meridian.
Here's a clip from Google Earth with Lat Long:
Only one..
> Think it's Logan County. Has to be 4 West of the Indian Meridian as there are no Townships west of the Cimarron Meridian.
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> Here's a clip from Google Earth with Lat Long:
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It is in Logan County. Almost on the Logan/Kingfisher County line. The west line of the township is the county line.
Only one..
> ... as there are no Townships west of the Cimarron Meridian.
No T16N of the Cimarron Base Line either.
Only one..
> > ... as there are no Townships west of the Cimarron Meridian.
> No T16N of the Cimmarron Base Line either.
Yes. Nothing north of 6 North. But as I recently discovered, there is a very narrow strip called 1 South in the Panhandle.
Luckily, I have not had to deal with it yet.
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> Is there only one Section 32, Township 16N, Range 4W in Oklahoma?
There must be a reason for this question. Give it up. Expiring minds want to know.
One South, C.M.
The survey is from the thirties, I believe. Maybe after a Supreme Court ruling over a law suit with Texas over the boundary. I don't remember the particulars, but if you ever get a chance to review the notes, they're interesting.
First, I know there is more than one Meridian in Oklahoma, but, not sure how many. I know the State was done in bits and pieces.
Second, the 81 year-old fellow who was asking me to hunt it up for him thought he remembered his father telling him this was near South Coffeyville which is near the Kansas border about 50 miles west of the Missouri border.
This fellow's grandfather had staked his claim on the southeast quarter of the section mentioned above. But, before he could get to the appropriate government office to finalize the paperwork, his hut caught fire and everything was destroyed, including the papers proving his claim to the land. What this fellow showed me was a document that his grandfather had to sign to release his rights, if any, to that tract. This occurred in Kingfisher, which is consistent with the location you fellows were nice enough to provide to me above.
The rest of my story from today is focused on southeast Kansas and my meeting with this man and his nephew from Elgin, OK. His great-grandparents had left Kentucky and established a home in 1860 about four miles from my current home. They were the only white settlers for several miles in all directions as the area was still not open to legal settlement until late 1865. The couple had a total of 12 children, including two sets of twins, but six of those died young. Three of those deceased children and the parents were buried in a family cemtery on their farm. A very impressive stone standing over six feet tall and listing all five of those buried nearby was erected in 1895 or so. Unfortunately, virtually all descendants knowledgeable about their family cemetery are deceased or live very distant from the site. Roughly six to eight years ago the County became involved with the cemetery as it was about to be destroyed by erosion of the creek running through the farm. Because of my interest in local history, I was asked to try to find someone from that family to seek guidance as to whether or not they had any thoughts about moving or not moving at least the large tombstone. Let me assure you, that was quite a challenge, even for an experienced researcher. It took many hours and dozens upon dozens of dead ends to finally track down a descendant. Finally, I was able to contact the fellow I met today and asked for family thoughts. He approved of the move, so the County moved the stone. Today, that descendant and his nephew finally made the journey to visit the site. I took them to the cemetery to where the stone had been moved by the County, then to their ancestors' farm and then to another cemetery where ancestors on another side of their family were buried.
The GLO Office for filing land claims was in Kingfisher and the building still stands today:
Learned today that Guthrie was the capital before OKC. Why did I not know that? BTW, why is Missouri City in Texas, Kansas City in Missouri, Arkansas City in Kansas, etc?
Things that make you go "hmmm"...
Probably the same reason that here in Oklahoma, Caddo is not in Caddo County.
Alfalfa is not in Alfalfa County.
Kiowa is not is Kiowa County.
The Citizen Potawatomi Nation's Tribal Headquarters are in Pottowatomie County.
And one that has always bugged me...
We have a "Canadian River" that runs west to east across the State... It's headwaters are in the Texas Panhandle.
I think the guys that explored through here were named Meriweather Lewis and Roy Clark.;-)
One South, C.M.
I have the GLO plats of the adjustment and all the adjustments of the common corner of the NE corner of the Texas Panhandle and the SE corner of the Oklahoma Panhandle. I would have to check, but I believe I also have the field notes. I know I haven't read them yet.
