Evan
> That statement and other protestations of "I'm just trying to learn", etc. are transparently false given the 9 personal attack posts with over 20 individual clear statements or insinuations of unethical behavior and substandard work directed toward me by you.
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> You want to put some substance and honesty behind that statement, go back and start over, engaging in honest discussion of what I've already posted. Until then, you're just showing yourself to be disingenuous and questionably competent.
Dane just has a bad case of "Foot in Mouth" Disease. Give him some time, he will learn.
Though it does get irritating at times.
I rarely post on this forum, but I visit it almost daily. I have found this discussion to be, well, actually not much of a discussion at all. Some excellent points have been made about professional judgment being applied with regards determining to the proper tools and methods to use for the surveying work being done and the end product required. One side of the "argument" has worked dilgently to present sound reasoning, providing some excellent examples of which tools would be accetable to use given the facts and circumstances on which the professional judgment is based (assuming one is proficient with those tools). The other side seems to have no interest in a constructive, professional discussion, or listening to and considering the validity of the points being made. That is really unfortunate. Personally, when I have encountered that type of close minded, apparently arrogant attitude in younger surveyors, it not only tends to strongly discourage me from willingly mentoring them because I feel that they are not interested in learning from what I have to offer from 35 years of experience, 25 of them licensed, but it scares the heck out of me. If you aren't interested in learning from your professional peers, especially those with a tremendous amount of width and depth of experiences, then you are doing yourself and the profession a dis-service, in my opinion. Some pretty "ugly" things have been thrown around on this thread. Sometimes our words can sew us into a corner that our ego won't let us get out of. Perhaps that is what happened here? I can't believe, based on my experiences with surveyors, that practical, common sense, and the ability to read, understand, and discuss could be so apparently lacking. I know we are known to disagree, but????
Just my 2 cents, for what it worth.