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Perpetuation of the Point of Commencement myth.

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is not for me.

I did a re sub and now I will prepare the new title description.
It is 3 tracts that are being formed into one.
It is about 7 acres of the most top dollar commercial real estate that one will find here.

Past surveys from the 80's.

Here is a situation that I run into frequently and see more and more of on local surveys.
The point of commencement myth.
Most of these surveys are shown to be always tied to a section corner or /1/4 cor that is long gone and forgotten.
The descriptions will continue to use these monuments and/or corners as the point of commencement.

On plats, surveyors will even show the point of commencement and tie measurements based on the old title document or previous survey without a tie.
Some will use verbiage such as "reported by "Mr. Old surveyor XXX" on his plat etc."

I tie unless it is not possible as in this case
This is located in a head rights section where the monument corners are long gone.
It would be futile to remonument the corner
In this case, it falls on a street in an exclusive PUD that has been around for 40 years.
So I really have nada when it comes to a point of commencement to base a M&B description other than one of the property corners of the tract.
There is an safe and secure NGS PBM located nearby that I have tied but commencing from that monument will raise a lot of 'foreign flags' with the attorneys etc.

just a rant and off to lunch....gumbo is on

 
Posted : July 22, 2010 9:23 am
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i don't use a POC unless i actually tied it, but i will say how my POB lies from a patent/survey corner "by descriptions". this my way of giving an abstractor a way to connect to the patent/survey instead of what i see as the usual "beginning at my left foot ... thence...."

 
Posted : July 22, 2010 11:19 am
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Thanks Frank. That is a very good point.

duh on me. I guess that it would help the clerk of court, assessor and the eventual GIS department.

R.

 
Posted : July 22, 2010 12:10 pm
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Maintaining the 'chain of title' by clearly explaining any necessary correction(s) to our land records is a critical part of the surveyor's professional work product.

That is why there is no set of 'fill in the blanks' forms for surveyors.

Richard Schaut

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Posted : July 23, 2010 8:45 am