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SIR VEYSALOT
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I have a number of adjoining gas pool descriptions (with many calls) to write that includes a lot of additional supporting information with each call about the properties that it goes through (area, names, tax map # ) and am thinking about writing every other a different direction. Since they adjoin, I would only have to clip out the sections that are common to each instead of totally disassembling each call and re-writing the adjoining section in the opposite direction. i.e one description cw and the adjoining ccw. Would probably save me a days time and I guarantee nobody would know the difference (except me) . Is everybody a CW or CCW description writer? I have always written clockwise but am considering an exception in this case. Thoughts?


 
Posted : May 1, 2015 6:54 pm
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CW 99%+ of the time. But every once in a blue moon at makes sense to go CCW.


 
Posted : May 1, 2015 7:43 pm
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My direction of calls generally depends on the parent tract, or the adjoining senior calls. I know there are probably a lot of references that direct a preference for CW, but I have never heard an iron-clad reason as to why.

The only reason I can see that CW would matter is the old original HP surveying software from the very early eighties gave a negative area if you ran CCW, a positive area if you ran CW.

Now admittedly I am a fairly uneducated surveyor. I was allowed to take the exam through what we use to call "long established practice". There may be some darn good reason to keep everything CW, but I can't see it. To me there are so many reasons that the direction can be used to enhance the description or keep it consistent with surrounding calls, depending on the situation.

Run with your idea. I like it.


 
Posted : May 1, 2015 7:54 pm
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CW 100%


 
Posted : May 1, 2015 8:34 pm
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Which ever way seems to suit the current purpose the best. Neither is superior to the other. Six of one, half dozen of the other.


 
Posted : May 1, 2015 9:01 pm

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Times 2...
Any new description should honor the manner in which title was established and maintained. Beyond that it's a matter of which direction provides certainty of location.


 
Posted : May 2, 2015 7:26 am
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On the same note as the bearings thread below?

Several years ago Ohio law required that the County Engineer and County Auditor adopt regulations setting minimum transfer standards. In a number of counties the County Engineer's standards include the requirement that all descriptions submitted for transfer are stated in a clockwise direction. The Fairfield County standards (pdf) are an example of this. If you open the pdf file go to page 14 of 15, and read legal description items 3, 4, 13 and 14.

EDIT: The Ohio Department of Transportation provides links to county standards or a contact within the county on their Conveyance Standards page.


 
Posted : May 2, 2015 10:01 am
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On the same note as the bearings thread below?

CW or CCW basically is an archaic piece of minutia. Like cutting off the end of momma's roast.

One day, at a family re-union, momma was there, with the end cut off her roast. All the family, being gathered for the feast, and one of the kids asked "Why do you cut the end off the roast?" well, because my momma did it. OK, lets go ask her. "Why do you cut off the end of the roast?" because MY momma did it. Well, she's over there in a wheel chair, lets go ask her. "Grandma, how come you cut the end off your roast?" WELL, cause my roast pan was too small!"

So, there you have it.

CW or CCW is strictly a leftover cause of an archaic survey program.


 
Posted : May 2, 2015 11:19 am
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Why I go CW...

CW is the only direction my cogo program calculates it...

:-S


 
Posted : May 2, 2015 11:41 am
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Whell

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There ye go!

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Posted : May 2, 2015 10:10 pm