The land swap is for the driveway being over the line for the last 100 ft before the road. I located some corners 190 West of the West line that fit well done by another surveyor for a different family of owners. That survey was a piece of work. The commencement point is the intersection of the section line and the East ROW line of a state highway being a short distance East of the 1/4 corner with no distance to the 1/4 corner. That was a 2004 survey!
I've come to believe the East line of the original parcel was measured to the road. The distance along the road was measured. The distance South along the West line was calculated, or better yet guessed at. The deed I'm surveying was penciled whooped from the 1974 deed.
The bigger vision is as a surveyor I have found the problem. That is easy to fix. As a Christian I can help fix a family. The latter is why this project came to me.
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Thanks, spledeus.
I love a good turn of phrase.
Don
I don't care if you are a Christian or not. Good to hear you are but wouldn't matter if you weren't. People can be good and honest without being christian. That is not my point and has nothing to do with my opinion, which can clearly, since I have a short version of a complex problem to come up with a possible solution, be way off base. I do this for fun and to try and help if I get lucky enough to have enough information to come up with a logical solution. I'm just throwing out an opinion which should not have any bearing what so ever on your decision. I did not imply you were doing anything wrong, I'm only stating it could look that way if things go south by using something that you haven't even determined was your clients, as a bargaining chip. I would not do it but then again, I only have a glimpse of this survey. So it might be your best angle at this point.
The worst thing about family property is when one of them decides to sell to non-family. They didn't worry about the lines back years ago because, well it's FAMILY.
Please let us know how this turns out. Sounds like a good survey, or will be once it's over with. 🙂
"That survey was a piece of work. The commencement point is the intersection of the section line and the East ROW line of a state highway being a short distance East of the 1/4 corner with no distance to the 1/4 corner. That was a 2004 survey!"
We can only hope this registrant, if over the age of 60 and at least 20 years licensed, is fulfilling his newly mandated total continuing education requirement of 1 (ONE) PDH of Standards of Practice...biennially.:-|
Dave! You know him! Think about it.
"a 1/4 is 1320 x 1320, I don't know how anyone else does it, but that's what we do around here"
AHHH!! The joys of surveying Oh Me!
AHHHH!! The joys of rual surveying deep in the county in Mississippi!! Not a whole lot has changed with proceedures in the last 10 years out in the county, except more "professionals" are being reported to the Board than used to be. Perhaps that is a good thing.
Is it time for a "Boundary Line Agreement" among all those involved?
AHHH!! The joys of surveying Oh Me!
I don't think so. Out side of the driveway being on step dad's, once mom's land, there's really not that many problems. Once they understand the problem, a QC deed or 2 will probably work. The family is not fighting. Daughter is missing mom, and hates the idea there's another woman in mom's house. If they can keep her out of it, the men can work it out. They all get what they need.
You gave good advice. I reflected on it looking at the deeds and cad drawing. Pondering it over in my mind. Wondering if?
Thank You!
Jules J.
yup.;-)
I'm still betting they put 60 feet on the wrong side of the point of beginning.
> I'm still betting they put 60 feet on the wrong side of the point of beginning.
I said the same thing but the masses disagree and want to reinvent the wheel. Ok fine by me, but this one really seems like a simple fix. Road on North (fixed), 200' wide (fixed), acreage is close (intent), move the POB (R & M), owners all agree (record survey and cash check).
Modern day surveyor then becomes a hero, title company is happy, assessor is happy, owners may be happy, and life goes on with no courts involved....yea
Part of "just being the messenger" involves providing possible solutions - IMVHO.
I'm still betting they put 60 feet on the wrong side of the point of beginning.
In the original deed from 1974,
Commence at the SW corner of the SE1/4 of the SE1/4 of Section 15, run then West 237.5' along the section line to the POB. Thence run North 2175' to a point on the South ROW line of a County Road, thence meandering along the said County Road ROW 287', thence run South 1910' to a point on the South section line. Thence East 200' to the POB.
The 2175' from the POB to the South ROW gets to the South ROW. The South 1910' to the South section line is short 57.8'. Surveying that legal I could make a bounds call to "1967.8' to the South section line as per survey". Being I have 287' along the ROW. But I'm not surveying that legal. I don't have the section line as a bounds call. I see very well where the problem is. Layman surveyors writing own legal descriptions. Could had just as well been a lawyer.
But thinking about it, I could put that augment to use!
Thanks,
Jules J.
My initial suggestion was based on the thought that simple people wrote a simple deed. A strip two hundred feet wide with a diagonal connecting the top ends of both sides having a length of 287 feet dictates a north-south leg of about 205 feet. To me, this suggests that your 765 dimension should have been 705 and the 1410 should have been 1470. That is an incredibly easy mistake to make. The writer knew the total distance was correct but misread the stake at 1470 as being at 1410. He subtracted 1410 from the total getting 765, which is wrong.
Thanks! I can work this being I'm still on the original deed from 1974. Until that deed is viewed, the later deed has no clarity.
