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so the "mandatory" fee we are talking about is for state society members to join the national organization? and there is no push to make membership mandatory for licensing? it is hard to discern from some of the comments here.

 
Posted : December 18, 2012 2:47 pm
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That is as I understood it from the meeting I was in.

In that meeting, the ONLY organizations that were being discussed were the state professional societies - NOT the board of licensure.

Some of the state societies had already voted to move ahead with the full membership plan. Others were discussing it in various stages (i.e. Kentucky looks to present it to the membership before a decision is made).

Also, from that meeting, there was a copy of an already in place agreement to the membership plan. It does include a very simple means for the state society to decide that they no longer want to participate. I would think that would be an incentive for NSPS to work very hard on behalf of the surveyors they will represent. If the state societies are not pleased with the relationship, it can easily be ended (much easier than dumping a psycho ex-girlfriend can be).

 
Posted : December 18, 2012 3:03 pm
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Nice try. If someone is selling you something you "need" for $200, and then they offer it for $40, what is your answer?

If you don't think you need it, then you don't know much about business in the U.S.

Sorry man, you don't operate in a vacuum. There is no surveying license, and the business that goes with it, without a national political presence.

No flame intended, just wonder at lack of knowledge of how business works in america; especially from those who have the stature of a professional license.

This is not a question of what little gimickes and discounts you can get. It is a question of survival of your way of making a living.

So flame on me, but I'm sticking to my story. And no, I have nothing to do with NSPS other than voting for our state to enter into it in full.

 
Posted : December 18, 2012 3:43 pm
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I guess I misunderstood. thanks for clarifying Jon.

 
Posted : December 18, 2012 6:36 pm
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> Nice try. If someone is selling you something you "need" for $200, and then they offer it for $40, what is your answer?
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> If you don't think you need it, then you don't know much about business in the U.S.
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> Sorry man, you don't operate in a vacuum. There is no surveying license, and the business that goes with it, without a national political presence.
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> No flame intended, just wonder at lack of knowledge of how business works in america; especially from those who have the stature of a professional license.
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> This is not a question of what little gimickes and discounts you can get. It is a question of survival of your way of making a living.
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> So flame on me, but I'm sticking to my story. And no, I have nothing to do with NSPS other than voting for our state to enter into it in full.

:good: :good: :good:

 
Posted : December 18, 2012 11:36 pm
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Rephrasing an old quote, "Ask not what my state/federal society can do for me but what I can do to protect and promote my profession"

Unlike the licensure boards, whose job it is to protect the public and make sure that we as surveyors toe the line, the state and federal societies are completely on our side. They are us. I have been involved at the local and state level since before I became licensed and have watched our organization (and myself) help to shape the rules by which we operate. We have a great relationship with the licensure board. Not being involved in your local society is like not voting locally and not being part of the national society is like not voting for the president. There are countless pictures of our society members shaking hands with the governor when a new bill got passed that a collective group of surveyors that care managed to get passed.

I'm all for our state society joining in this collaboration with our federal brethren. If you don't like what they are doing, that is even more reason to join and be the voice of dissension to help steer towards the path you think is best for the profession.

 
Posted : December 19, 2012 5:45 am
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:good: :good: :good:

 
Posted : December 19, 2012 7:53 am
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