Now I know why I hate people that have the "perfectly" groomed and manicured yards and planters and such... They stack all the tree trimmings, grass cuttings, excess 2x4's, garden fence and anything else that can be cleared out of the yard right on top of rassa-frassin' lot/property corners... I have one that might take me 2 hours to dig out and search, and of course the owner wants to know why you gotta dig through all that crap and waste all that time...
ugghhh!! Crappy way to end a Friday too. I'm just going to wait until Monday to finish that one.
Have a great weekend everyone!!
Just wait until February 23rd ...
... then you can find all the boundary markers in the center of the circles where Romans are dancing around while wearing togas.
The Feast of Terminus! (It helps if your clients are Italians.)
Was trying to finish a survey several years ago and one corner fell in the middle of an area that was being used to dump oil, filters and other fluids from the guys vehicles.
It did not get set, was not going to scatter that pile of contaminant.
I did tell the neighbor to call the county and make a complaint. She was nice, even brought us a glass of iced tea.
stake out where you have it calc-ed and set a wood stake on top of the heap. call it 'pin found' and move on like everybody else does. done!
I have always preferred dogs to people.
A friend sent me this picture from a survey he was working on. Here we have a lot corner monument that someone decided was right where this downed power pole was. Instead of moving the pole, they set their pin & cap right through it. And to hide their shame they made sure the cap was pretty well smashed to make the surveyor's license number illegible.
Not surprisingly, there was no survey plat filed with the county.
I had rather have any of the above, than the people who dump their old kitty litter just over the fence corner on their neighbors property. Want to know where the corner is buried? Just look for the 15 year old continuous pile of kitty litter.
Dan
Now that is bad. Wouldn't it be harder to drive the pin through the pole than just move the dang pole a foot?
Dan
Have drilled a 1 1/4" hole through large tree roots with a brace and bit to set a 5/8" X 30" caped rebars. This looks like the work of an unsupervised, untrained or lazy field crew to me.
jud
I agree with that, dogs at least spread it around a little...I was looking for a corner once and the pile of dog crap was at least 3 feet tall and 5 feet around....huuumans are really gross!!
Steve
It depends on how long that pole is and whether or not there is anything to prevent it from moving. However, from the photo, it looks like something I could move by myself with the help of a shovel for leveraqe.
It also looks like that pin is too small to be a 1/2" diameter rebar (minimum size for Alabama). It looks more like a PK nail, but I wasn't there.
Carl, When I discover inaccessible corners is that I tell the owner they have an option of me coming back and they organise removal of debris or pay my time for the additional work.
RADU
> I have always preferred dogs to people.
Until the people pile the dog poop on top of the property corner;-) then I'd prefer cats, until they start dumping their litter boxes there, then I'd prefer rats;-) Their poop is small (Right Angel?)
Dugger
Steve
At least I didn't need to change the subject line to respond to you.;-)
I thought of that too; it could be wedged between trees out of the photo or there might be an immovable object at the other end, and a full-length pole could be difficult to move but it would be worth a try and I don't think the photographer would have thought it was worth taking the picture and forwarding it as a bad example if there was a good reason for leaving it there. But I wasn't there either so maybe I was hasty in my assessment.
> Carl, When I discover inaccessible corners is that I tell the owner they have an option of me coming back and they organise removal of debris or pay my time for the additional work.
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> RADU
I'm going to make the spot where I need to shoot it from my last set up, so that I can stake out to it and maybe I'll get lucky and it's not as bad as I thought. If it's in the middle of all the craap, I'll set a stake and make them clear out the stuff down to soil level.
Steve
think i'd have busted out the saw on this one. whats to say the pole isn't blocking the original monument? that pole should have been moved or cut!
Yeah, and remember the time me & my partner had to set a corner slap in the middle of a mulch pile about 6' deep? The guys doing the clearing had left their front end loader there with a key in it. I took care of said pile in about 10 minutes that would have taken the 2 of us several hours.
On the record (at the office) and at the other board, I was summarily excoriated for that action.
Off the record, I was praised for "adapt and change and making do with the tools at hand".
I was working in Missouri a year ago. We were looking for a COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY monument "WILLIAMS 1929". I loaded up the lat and lon in the little etrex and away we went. We got to the location of "WILLIAMS 1929" only to find a pile of plow parts, rail road spikes, lengths of heavy chain, big rusted bolts. just any kind if heavy metal debris one could imagine. I looked at the data sheet and saw, "THE SITE LOCATION WAS REPORTED AS SUITABLE FOR SATELLITE OBSERVATIONS - August 15, 2002". So we started pulling debris off the pile, for about an hour or so. I bet we moved over 1,000 lbs., until we hit dirt. Then we dug until we found "WILLIAMS 1929"! I looked around at the clean bean field thinking, "and this was the only place to dump trash?" "WILLIAMS 1929" was undisturbed, and verified. Beat me?
People tend to throw their junk in the corner of the yard. Maybe because it's the farthermost distance from the house. The winch on the front of my 4wheeler comes in handy in this respect sometimes.
I think the worst problem I can remember recovering corners was at an old auto junkyard years ago. The metal detector was completely useless. We dug up enough car parts to build one.
I also hate the guys that will put a chain link fence corner next to a pin, dig a hole around the post and fill it up with concrete 2" over the pin. You don't know if the pin is covered by concrete, or if the post was place over the pin.
My guess is that that pin was set in the winter with copious amounts of snow on the ground. The surveyor probably didn't even realize that he was pounding the pin into a post. I have seen that around here. Dig down 3 feet through dense snow and when you hit something solid you think or want to think that it is the ground.
