Yep... looks like another big university is in money trouble. So they are cutting and hacking. Looks like the surveying program at NMSU is on the block. Sad day for the surveying profession and NM. NM has been one of the toughest states to get a license in. Only a handful of college have a Bachelor degree. If NMSU succeeds in removing the program, the legislature might have to redo the requirements for licensure in the state.
Link to news article: http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/education/nmsu/2016/08/04/surveyors-launch-effort-save-nmsu-program/88272924/
This is not a new phenomena, when I was at Purdue in 1986 I was the only graduate that had anything to do with surveying that year (I was CE, but majored in Geodesy and therefore took survey classes). I know I will get some flack for saying this, but one solution may be to make it a field under CE, just like some CE's major in structures, others in geotech, environmental, etc.
In many other countries surveying is a part of civil engineering, and they are compensated similarly.
This is a mess of our own making. Many years ago it was not separate, not sure when it began to split, but clearly it is not working.
John Hamilton, post: 385400, member: 640 wrote: This is not a new phenomena, when I was at Purdue in 1986 I was the only graduate that had anything to do with surveying that year (I was CE, but majored in Geodesy and therefore took survey classes). I know I will get some flack for saying this, but one solution may be to make it a field under CE, just like some CE's major in structures, others in geotech, environmental, etc.
In many other countries surveying is a part of civil engineering, and they are compensated similarly.
This is a mess of our own making. Many years ago it was not separate, not sure when it began to split, but clearly it is not working.
Actually... it is under the https://et.nmsu.edu/academics/degree-programs-overview/&apos ;">Dept of Engineering. Not sure of the structure at the University. Maybe they need a new way of handling it. I don't know.
I doubt any university wants to close down a program.
All the colleges and universities encounter problems with programs being able to fund themselves.
The number of students in each program decides whether it will remain as an option.
I can remember signing up for classes in college to find out that timeslot did not have enough to signup for class and I had to scurry to get into another.
Had to do a couple of summer and night classes to fill the course requirements.
It will take the industry to join together and send applicants to surveying classes to financially support the program.
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John Hamilton, post: 385400, member: 640 wrote: This is not a new phenomena, when I was at Purdue in 1986 I was the only graduate that had anything to do with surveying that year (I was CE, but majored in Geodesy and therefore took survey classes). I know I will get some flack for saying this, but one solution may be to make it a field under CE, just like some CE's major in structures, others in geotech, environmental, etc.
In many other countries surveying is a part of civil engineering, and they are compensated similarly.
This is a mess of our own making. Many years ago it was not separate, not sure when it began to split, but clearly it is not working.
Interesting that you say that...I've spent quite a bit of time reading the past meeting minutes for the California Board. Surveyors first became licensed July 20, 1891 in California (and the U.S.) with a licensing board that included the Surveyor General. In 1929, as a result of the St. Francis Dam failure in LA County, the California Legislature established the Board for Civil Engineers. In 1933, the office of the Surveyor General was eliminated and the licensing responsibilities were merged into the Board for Civil Engineers. (Engineers were first licensed in Wyoming). Upon the merger, the Board sent a letter to all previously licensed land surveyors requiring them to submit a new application and $5 within 12 months times to remain licensed under the new board. About a year after that, the Board thought "this is such a good idea, let's send a letter to all of our licensed civil engineers offering them the same thing!" And they did. Eventually, the laws were revised to allow civil engineers to practice land surveying in California until December 31, 1981. And that gentlemen is how it all began allowing civil engineers to practice land surveying. All it took was $5 and an application.
Link: http://www.bpelsg.ca.gov/about_us/history.pdf