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(@lamon-miller)
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I have a client who ownes approx. 100 acres of commercial/industral property. The parcel has for the last 30 years been leased in mostly 2-5 acres tracts. Several of the tenents has asked the ower to purchase the property and he has agreed. All of these tracts are fenced in with industral type fence materials and they want to sell/buy to the fences.

Would you use the existing fence corners as monuments or set reference monuments to the fence corners.

I have looked at the fences and they are all straight.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 9:35 am
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"Would you use the existing fence corners as monuments or set reference monuments to the fence corners."

yes and yes.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 9:50 am
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A pipe or chain link fence corner is a great monument as long as you have attached your ID.

That can get tricky and requires ordering a washer or tag type of ID rather than a cap.

I've seen them attached by weld, epoxy and screw.

Found 60d nails in the top of x-ties for monuments on one job, I don't recommend that.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 9:56 am
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> All of these tracts are fenced in with industral type fence materials and they want to sell/buy to the fences.
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> Would you use the existing fence corners as monuments or set reference monuments to the fence corners.
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> I have looked at the fences and they are all straight.

What better monument could you ask for, they are easily identifiable and very stable? Attach an identifier (if possible), and set reference mon's if you really think they are necessary and not potentially confusing.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 10:26 am
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Both. The intent (from what you said) is for the fences to be the location so make your description calls to the actual fence corners. I recommend setting references so that the original location can reestablish the fences should something happen.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 10:47 am
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Would you use the existing fence corners as monuments or set reference monuments to the fence corners.

My bad this should have been and instead of or.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 11:16 am
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Fence corners are great monuments until the next fence contractor comes in and replaces the fence.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 11:27 am
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I don't look for anything to change anytime soon. The fences are industrial type, everything extra heavy and in great shape despite being 20-30 years old.

Don't have tags

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 12:41 pm
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Heck yeah, use the fence corners. Stamp your LS# or affix your tag, depending on corner post material.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 12:41 pm
(@steve-gilbert)
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Drive in a rebar as close to the fence corner as possible. That way the corners can be easily found. What does it matter if the fences wind up being 0.2' off the lines? Tags can fall off of fences and, being in a non recording state as I am, it is unlikely future surveyors will have a copy of your plat.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 1:37 pm
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Uh, a minor problem with that

Unless you like to drill concrete for no good reason, while weakening the fencing system at the same time.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 7:43 pm
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That wouldn't work in one industrial park

One industrial park where we have worked has a mandatory setback of 25 feet from the property line for any perimeter fence. The result is a 50-foot wide clearzone for underground utilities and easy access for fire trucks and other emergency equipment between adjoining tracts..

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 7:47 pm
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One problem with setting reference monuments is that it ordinarily requires an additional trip to the corner after the boundary is sufficiently defined. As an alternative, I suggest that you eyeball their installation a suitable distance from the fence corner and locate the collective bunch at the same time. Then let the boundary be defined by the field location of the reference monuments, with the corner(s) being defined by a bearing-bearing intersection. Provided the field location of the fence corner(s) supports the computed intersection to your satisfaction, then the additional trip is eliminated.

 
Posted : April 9, 2013 8:57 pm