Im not sure? ill check tomorrow.
Thanks for the offer, means alot!
Im not even sure what CAD is?
Are those files on what you can see on your pc the blueprints or graphics (files with a DWG extensions).
Tall order. I'd suggest getting a good text book on construction surveying and study the heck out of it. Without a grounding in the basics it's next to impossible for anyone here to be of much help. I had years of school followed by years of mentoring and I still get thrown by various software routines I'm not familiar with. IMHO your only recourse is some hands on training, monkey see- monkey do, copious note taking on your part, no disrespect intended. A little knowledge can be a very dangerous thing in this line of work and short cuts to gaining that knowledge are few. Good luck.
Thats the plan!
But right now im trial by fire.
Gnarly situation to be in.
Im a hard worker, in fact I really enjoy work. and this has me thrown for a loop. im very anxious all day and i cant leave work at work.
Im constantly looking/thinking about work.
Downloading material to study, watching videos etc.
All boils down to "why dont I have an experienced surveyor teaching me the chains" so to speak
You said that you topod the CL, the curve data is on the plans, it appears to be an existing road and your people don't seem to know right from wrong. Figure out how to build alignments and rock and roll.
also, anxious all day and unable to leave work at work is part of it. Welcome to the world of construction surveying.
Canada does have very very stringent laws in regards to Registered Land Surveyors. As we can see here, construction companies do not. I feel for this guy, but it doesn't change the business model that some businesses employ. You should inform your company of just what liability is, and what goes wrong if they do not have a competent trained person on site. There is a reason why even techs go to school for a few semesters. Or, would they be comfortable building all this on someone else's property, with the wrong grades and no drainage. Its something I see with here a lot.
At the very least, the engineers who are running the project should provide you with control points that you can run off of. But that doesn't change the fact that you shouldn't be doing this project with no training at all. Explain to your bosses, they wouldn't buy brand new excavators and graders and put untrained operators into them and expect finish grade quality. Why do they expect the same from you?
I came in like a bat outta hell this am lol.
I flat out told the supervisor Im finishing topoing the creek edge then im done till the qualified surveyor arrives on site for proper training.
I said im not being responsible for errors that WILL be here if Im not trained, and that the whole project was at stake when MTO rolls around
He agreed and is making arrangments now.
I did however (even with my lack of knowledge/experience) expose a huge error in the plans for the diverging culvert. its off 3m so someone has made a drastic error on the engineering end
Manitoubass2, post: 401322, member: 12278 wrote: said im not being responsible for errors that WILL be here if Im not trained,
And you won't be responsible in any event. You are not a trained surveyor with any liability insurance. If something goes wrong, its straight into your bosses hand. Just remember, your signature on any document means nothing. Good luck man.
Manitoubass2, post: 401322, member: 12278 wrote:
I did however (even with my lack of knowledge/experience) expose a huge error in the plans for the diverging culvert. its off 3m so someone has made a drastic error on the engineering end
Get used to that.
Mike Mac, post: 401352, member: 2901 wrote: Get used to that.
Remember sh*t flows downhill unless you pump it and you be alright.
Quick update.
Because of the error I found yesterday the 3rd culvert project needs engineering work, so no digging today. Likely not for a few days as Im sure you all know you're at the mercy of the design engineer.
However, I learned alot today. I was much better navigating the fc500 and now that Im learning the functions it is getting much easier already.
Today was slow so I took my time.
I actually got alot of work done and get the frost taper done and off my list.
It was a good day! still a billion things to learn!
Manitoubass2, post: 401637, member: 12278 wrote: Quick update.
Because of the error I found yesterday the 3rd culvert project needs engineering work, so no digging today. Likely not for a few days as Im sure you all know you're at the mercy of the design engineer.
However, I learned alot today. I was much better navigating the fc500 and now that Im learning the functions it is getting much easier already.
Today was slow so I took my time.
I actually got alot of work done and get the frost taper done and off my list.
It was a good day! still a billion things to learn!
Billion things to learn won't end any time soon. Step at a time grasshopper. Trust your instincts. If something doesn't 'look' right, good chance it's not.
Manitoubass2, post: 401637, member: 12278 wrote: It was a good day! still a billion things to learn!
You're hooked now.
Yessir!!!!
A brief summary of the method I would use to stake it. I realize also that you might not understand all the terms I use. That plan sheet shows some control points. I'd set up on one of them with my base and check another, also check the benchmark that is shown. This assumes its on some kind of projection for the GPS use. I'd then get the CAD files (computer aided drafting) and use that to get an alignment in my data collector. From that you can stake about anything. An alternate method would be to not put an alignment in the data collector but to put points in the CAD drawing where you need stakes an upload them to the data collector. Good luck.
Understood
The thing is I dont have CAD. thats why the first day was so tough.
My supervisor has them on another site.
So once I figured that out I had him email me the files, save to a thumb drive then uploaded to the fc500.
So part of the reason I was so lost is I had none of the information I needed to go forward other than some obvious topo I could take care of.
Now, with this boards help as well as my supervisor, things are coming together nicely on this project(so far)
Thanks everyone for your assistance along the way!
Much appreciated!!!!
Any recommendations for markers to right on wet/stakes???
No offense but I hope this is a joke. If not then you definitely have bravado to take on the tasks described with little to no experience or proper training. Good luck.
Best advise I can give is that "box" does not always give the correct answers and without training and experience you may never know.
Not a joke, and no offense taken
Just remember, im basically the survey assistant, collecting data for the surveyor.
All my work is being verified by him and the ministry of transportation.
