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(@david-livingstone)
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I've talked to our salesman about the upcoming "Narrowbanding" requirement being mandated by the FCC. We have an older Hiper system and it appears we will have to buy new equipment. The Hipers have built in radio boards and this won't recieve the narrow banding signal from what I'm told.

How are other people handling this requirment and how will this new standard be enforced?

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 10:48 am
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The Black Hole of information

We've been (and still are) going thru this with our 2700 ISX system
and the Satel external/repeater radios. I've emailed Sokkia (Topcon)
who said they would get back to us - they haven't. Emailed Satel and
find that our external and repeater radios are already compliant.
This makes me think that our Sokkia receivers are, too. In fact,
the Operation Manual implies that these receivers ARE compliant.
We need some verification so we can re-apply for the narrowband
license but so far Topcon is silent.
We also have a legacy Javad system that will, most likely, become
an expensive paperweight.

Good luck with finding anything out. If you do, please post.

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 11:16 am
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I'll be happy to

I'll be happy to buy your old topcon.

I use 900 mzh and have a spare borad... and an external 900 repeater.

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 11:27 am
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I'll be happy to

I doubt it will be for sale, they have pretty good allowances for trade in.

Its my understanding even if your stuff will be narrow band compliant, you will have to get it programed so it will operate as narrow band, but I'm not 100% sure of anything in regards to this stuff.

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 11:42 am
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Who?

Who has the trade in deal? I may trade one of mine in.

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 11:52 am
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Who?

We deal with Postioning Solutions.

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 12:04 pm
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We went through this over a year ago with our Hiper+ system. Nobody could or would tell me anything. We sent our 35w radio to Pac Crest at a cost of $500. Will not work with the receivers. We have been static only for over a year. After it was to late Topcon said we could upgrade our Hiper+s for $2500 each to Hiper GAs. I don't and want, if I can help it, spent a dime until somebody proves or warranties it will work. I will say that the Hipers are great receivers. They are 8-1/2 years old and still have the original batteries.

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 12:34 pm
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Ours are over 10 years old, and on the second set of batteries. The radio board is fried on one, so its always the base, and one of the ports is fried on the rover unit, but you only need one port. The truth is, the system is starting to be near the end of its life, but you would still rather get new when you want to, not when some government mandates forces your hand.

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 12:46 pm
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I hear you!

In fact ALL new equipment approved by the FCC since 1997 was supposed to be compliant, if your radio equipment was designed and then approved by the FCC post 1997 then the vendor should of been selling compliant hardware, while 2013 probably seemed a long ways off, the fact remains that this isn't some new requirement. Having said that, I am seeing a trend were vendors didn't seem to be following the rules, at least not fully.

SHG

 
Posted : June 26, 2012 4:35 pm