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Missouri Subdivision Right of Way Question

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(@that1surveyor)
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Is the "site triangle" dedicated as R/W? I know this to be the case in several other places I have worked in but definitely don't want to assume. Especially with the wealth of knowledge on this board to consult.

 
Posted : November 24, 2013 7:08 pm
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My eyes aren't what they used to be but it doesn't matter. I could never read anything that small.

 
Posted : November 24, 2013 9:34 pm
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My apologies I did not realize it would post that small. Perhaps this will be easier on the eyes.

 
Posted : November 24, 2013 9:45 pm
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That definitely helped. The problem is that does not necessarily tell you what you need to know. Rather than an easement it is probably a building setback line. Is there anything in the text portion of the plat commenting on the so-called site triangle?

Two alternatives come to mind. Ask the City of Springfield for their subdivision regulations section addressing this issue. Ask the signing surveyor of that plat.

 
Posted : November 24, 2013 9:50 pm
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> That definitely helped. The problem is that does not necessarily tell you what you need to know. Rather than an easement it is probably a building setback line. Is there anything in the text portion of the plat commenting on the so-called site triangle?

There is no mention whatsoever of the site triangle in any of the notes. This is the first time I have seen it displayed in this way. My initial instinct was to treat it as a setback being as it doesn't appear to change the boundary of the affected lot. The only concern I have is that the legal I was given is LESS all the portions dedicated to R/W and that is normally the case for the triangle in Oklahoma at least all the ones I've seen.

 
Posted : November 24, 2013 9:56 pm
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Local custom is the key, but if I was to guess I'd bet on a site distance easement. In other words, nothing in there an obstruct site distance for vehicles at the intersection. I have seen VDOT impose those kinds of things.

 
Posted : November 25, 2013 2:09 am
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I would agree that is is a sight distance easement. "Site Triangle" as stated on the plat is a term used in sight distance equations. I would just call Anderson. They have a very good name for themselves and are active in all the State programs. I am sure they will offer up some info. Or the signing official at the municipality may be able to verify.
Ryan

 
Posted : November 25, 2013 3:20 am
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Agree that the word should be "SIGHT" and not "SITE". Looks like the area that you cannot build anything in to obstruct the view of approaching traffic.

 
Posted : November 25, 2013 9:55 am
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I know this sounds

kinda trivial and certainly nothing on which to base a firm opinion, but the linetypes for the triangle and the building setbacks appear to be the same. Also the additional right of way is shown as a solid line to which the triangle extends.

Andy

 
Posted : November 25, 2013 10:44 am
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I didn't even pay attention to the spelling, but you are correct.

 
Posted : November 25, 2013 11:12 am
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Seems to me that a sight triangle would be considered a restrictive easement, rather than a part of the ROW.

 
Posted : November 25, 2013 12:03 pm