I was flipping through the newsletter from the Mississippi Board while eating dinner, and it states that the board now considers construction staking to fall under the authority of a licensed engineer or surveyor. I'm not sure how enforceable that is. I'd like a little discussion from those that know more than me.
Here is NC policy
NORTH CAROLINA BOARD OF EXAMINERS
FOR ENGINEERS AND SURVEYORS
POLICY
Title: Construction Staking Policy
Policy Number:
BP-1003-1
Status: Draft________ Date Originated: By:
For Approval Rev. No.:
Surveying Committee
Final X
Date for Board Approval: Referred to Date
3/11/10 Date Adopted:
Date to be Reviewed:
3/11/10
2013 Date Reviewed:
Category(s):
Surveying Practice
Keywords:
Construction Staking, Surveying
The practice of construction staking falls within the definition of land surveying as defined in GS 89C-3(7)a.2. and shall be done under the responsible charge of a Professional Land Surveyor.
Further reference is made to the Board Policy “3D MODELING FOR GRADING AND STAKE-OUT”, Policy Number: BP-0607-2 Rev. 1 that states as follows:
“The creation and design of the controls, profiles, and cross sections for the electronic data used in the Digital Terrain Models for the purposes of earthwork grading and stake-out is within the definition of the practice of land surveying and engineering and shall be done under the responsible charge of a Professional Engineer or Professional Land Surveyor.”
It is very enforceable in NC.
It's my understanding that when doing construction staking the surveyor will have to provide a drawing as well. I'm not too clear on what should be shown on the drawing. I would very much like to see a sample of an acceptable construction staking plat for Mississippi.
The TN Board also has a policy stating that construction staking is considered land surveying as well. I think that this will be very difficult to enforce. It seems like almost every construction firm is hiring a person with party chief qualifications and puts them in charge of the layout.
I posted a copy of that ruling on here earlier. If yoou have ever dealt with the Mississippi State Board you will know that that ruling will be VERY enforcable and is based on the quoted state law.
The new guys on the board do not play around. I would not want to be one to challenge them on this issue.
How will they know when this is being violated? People will talk. Many have complained about this issue in the past, thus the ordinance. Those that complained before will do so in the future.
I think you are going to see major changes in this area and the use of survey clearing houses in the state. There are sevberal changes in the wind. All for real. All enforced.
I'd like to see that policy Jimmy, because it's my understanding that the TN board does not think construction layout falls under surveying.
Tommy,
I would have to check with the Board. When I received copies of the board policies, I was asked not to circulate them yet, as they were not supposed to be circulated at that time.
I thought that they were on the website at one time, but I cannot find it at the moment.
Jimmy
This is going to make for some interesting reading of disciplinary actions in the next news letter from the board. I wonder if non-licensed contract crews are in the future?
http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/licensee/dpl-boards/en/regulations/rules-and-regs/250-cmr-600.html#6.03
Massachusetts has it specified, but I know several firms who lay their own control without a PLS. They get some right, they get some wrong.
From what you guys have seen in the other states does this include contractors?
A "secret" policy? That's about as screwed up as a football bat.
It does in California. Not yet in KS, OK, or TX.
I haven't check lately in AZ or NM.
Bruce Small should be quite up to date about Arizona.
SJB-)
Construction staking/layout is required by state law (73-13-73(c)) to be performed by a PS or a PE, practicing within his area(s) of expertise and competence. The licensee is in responsible charge for the staking/layout work being performed under his license, even if performed by a subcontractor, and should affix his seal to it.
Go to www.azpls.org and click on Statutes on the left side of the home page and then click on 32-101. You can read the Arizona definition of land surveying.
MR Dowdell
As it is obvious you are not aware, I have been registered as an Arizona Surveyor for 16 years. But since I rarely enter the state I have not religiously kept up with all the statutes, but before I survey a boundary in the state you can lay a sizable bet that I will make sure I am up-to-date in that area.
Look under No. 30358
SJ B-)
