Let's see...if I could somehow put my brain in a twenty-five year old's body.
Seriously, the perfect party chief has to follow directions explicitly and be 100% honest in his verbal reporting and notes. He also has to have a keen skill in observation.
I've had "rocket scientists" that were too caught up in the equipment to notice some obvious details that would affect a survey. I've also had a few that lacked enough grey-matter to get the equipment in the truck before they left and drove sixty miles.
I agree a good one doesn't come down the pike very often. The last good one that worked for me went on to further his career. I would have been doing him an injustice by trying to keep him around. He might have had some misgivings at the time, but in the long run it was better for him.
He posts on the board here...I hope he sees this..and he better pass that exam!
I have had the pleasure of working with a few great party chiefs, and the most important things to me were common sense, and knowing how to use a shovel instead of relying on a coordinate tie to a computed corner.
And they had to do what I asked of them for my project.
I was never a full time party chief, but if the regular crews were busy on bigger construction projects, I would chief my own crew and grab a cad tech to run the rod for me.
If he were smart, he probably would not want to be a party chief. A party chief is just an under paid field hand to blame for all problems that always happen.
This dwescription fits me to a T, except all the retirement checks. I only get one per month and I still would not want to be a Flat Earth Survey Party Chief.
> I agree a good one doesn't come down the pike very often. The last good one that worked for me went on to further his career...
All the good ones eventually go on to further their career. The ones that don't, well, you usually don't WANT them to hang around very long.
> That's easy:
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> Highly experienced:
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> Worked as moundsman (monument builder) on EVERY Original GLO Survey in your state during the summers (so he knows where thay all are).
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> Spent Winters working for the Coast & Geodetic Survey, doing Triangulation and Leveling work.
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> Can operate, program, repair EVERY survey instrument known to man, and loves doing research and complex calculations.
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> Despite his [obvious] age, he gets around the hills like a Mountain Goat, and loves heavy packs and crappy weather.
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> Has so many Government retirement checks coming in, that he not only works for free, he always picks up the bar tab each night.
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> 🙂
> Loyal
So, above all, they have to Loyal...;-)
Two words get you pretty close: Daryl Moistner
> Two words get you pretty close: Daryl Moistner
LOL...maybe...if you clone Daryl Moistner and genetically alter him to have twice the lung capacity and quadriceps the size of tree trunks for climbing... durable carbon composite knees and 4 knuckle dragger arms not to knuckle drag but to cling on to things like rods and posts and throats of annoying land owners...sweat glands that excrete DEET ... plus an enhanced sense of smell to include iron and brass...I'm kinda seeing an armadillo-ish schonstedt elephant trunk type snout... eye site with 50X optical zoom with lasers... plus 4 livers...2 auxiliary backup..while your at it may as well merge the biological matter with that of a small mechanical helicopter and a gatling gun configuration ...
> > Two words get you pretty close: Daryl Moistner
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> LOL...maybe...if you clone Daryl Moistner and genetically alter him to have twice the lung capacity and quadriceps the size of tree trunks for climbing... durable carbon composite knees and 4 knuckle dragger arms not to knuckle drag but to cling on to things like rods and posts and throats of annoying land owners...sweat glands that excrete DEET ... plus an enhanced sense of smell to include iron and brass...I'm kinda seeing an armadillo-ish schonstedt elephant trunk type snout... eye site with 50X optical zoom with lasers... plus 4 livers...2 auxiliary backup..while your at it may as well merge the biological matter with that of a small mechanical helicopter and a gatling gun configuration ...
Oh, you mean Ted...:-O
Allergic to alcohol.
LMAO!!! 🙂
> Two words get you pretty close: Daryl Moistner
I certainly admire Daryl and appreciate his awesome adventures but they are an imcomplete resume basically illustrating the setting up of GPS on monuments and navagating difficult terrain, I would have to see many more credentials displayed in order to appoint him as the perfect party chief.
Can he do heavy construction staking, boundary surveys in PLSS and colonial states, GIS, ALTAs, route surveys, easily research process and draw his own surveys to 100%, have a perfectly clean driving record, rarely if never never call in sick, keep the truck clean, can he throw a chain, can he read a transit, keep the equipment scratch free maintained and functioning perfectly, does he write perfectly legibly in field notes and on survey stakes?
Does he have pride in his work, is he honest, is he smart, is hardworking, is his image that of someone that you would be proud to have represent the company? Does he work safely?
Does he understand and properly process the context of the client juxtaposed against that of the employee, and that of the company owner, is he respectful to himself and others, does he bring any clients to the door, can he use his brain dynamically to make critical decisions, is he profitable?
Is he an inspirational leader? Can he stay focused? Is he a problem solver or a problem maker? Is he fun to work with?
Someone you can hand a project to and just forget about it being done correctly and out on time and under budget.
They do not exist.
"I've had "rocket scientists" that were too caught up in the equipment to notice some obvious details that would affect a survey. I've also had a few that lacked enough grey-matter to get the equipment in the truck before they left and drove sixty miles.
I agree a good one doesn't come down the pike very often. The last good one that worked for me went on to further his career. I would have been doing him an injustice by trying to keep him around. He might have had some misgivings at the time, but in the long run it was better for him."
I think I fit all of those examples Mike, Hope your doing well ole' buddy
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Interesting collection of wants. Now, how much are you willing to pay for this basic party chief as described?
I like Loyal's guy:
> Has so many Government retirement checks coming in, that he not only works for free, he always picks up the bar tab each night.
🙂
😉
> Now, how much are you willing to pay for this basic party chief as described?
However much he wants, maybe a little more if he's a midget.
Then I'm your guy!...err...explain midget. Someone under six foot?....:)
> Then I'm your guy!...err...explain midget. Someone under six foot?....:)
Well Yeah, but preferably someone that can chain with a plumb bob standing under the transit.
Then I am your guy!....no beerleg though. Got blamed a few times for bumpin the legs...:)
And for what it's worth, my left index finger is about .5" longer than my right. (PC was a prick at times)