Can somebody help an old Trimble user?
I am forced to use Leica C15's data collectors for our T15(total station) and G15(gps). We are running Viva Smartworx ver 4.6. We do NOT have the Road Runner "app".
I have Leica X-Change 64 bit for C3D 2012 and am trying to export a simple 11 mile long horizontal only alignment to the data collector. X-Change seems to work fine and creates dbx folder with files and recognizes alignment. When I put this on data card and try and open the job it won't recognize it. So I try and export a simple Landxml file from C3D and load that to data folder and attempt to open a road job. Nothing doing. So I export a 2D polyline dxf out of C3D and put it in data folder. I can see the dxf in the collector but it won't let me make alignment from it. It breaks down the Pline to line and arc elements and requires me to stake only to that line or arc. Of course I have define stationing for each before I can do anything.
Is it that I don't speak Swiss? Or do I need Road Runner App? Tried doing some other stuff through LGO and it won't bring in anything but the dbx file and only has points. No alignment. Plus it shows I have no "importers" in the Design to Field tool.
What am I doing wrong, fellow "Green" surveyors. I admit I am new to both hardware and software but I just can't believe this is this difficult.
Thanks.
Dig,
What app are you trying to stake with, reference line or line stake? If I recall you do not work in the database that contains the alignment, you just reference it. At least I think that is how it works in our Smartworks.
Dig,
It is not hard and it is not because you do not speak Swiss. Leica has been selling advanced applications such as RoadRunner and others as individual licenses. This is to keep costs down when a customer does not need to pay for applications he will never use such as a roading program. Not everyone uses a full blown roading program and allot of field software just includes full loaded packages. Just a different philosophy with Leica software structuring.
OK… so if you want to uses horizontal alignments, vertical alignments, cross section design, etc. and are doing allot of Road projects… then RoadRunner is the application you need. All of the applications in Leica SmartWorx Viva run for 180 days in trail version. If you do not have RoadRunner loaded you can download the version 4.6 applications from Leica myWorld and install the RoadRunner program or I can email it to you.
So it sounds like you have Leica Xchange running and you say it is creating the jobs. In SmartWorx you are dealing with databases. So you have a database for regular data jobs , you have a database for a Road job and you can also have a database for a DTM. The reason that Leica uses databases is that the software can compute and perform very quickly with databases. So again… there are different databases for different types of data. So I think when you are saying that the system will not recognize the job it is that you are not in the right application. This is what I mean… if you are loading the converted road job into the DBX folder on you collector and you look under choose working job … for example… you will not see the file for the road job. You will only see the road job when you are in RoadRunner and you select the Road job to extract data from… the same goes with a DTM job… if you are not in a selection field in an application where you are selecting a DTM job … you will not see the DTM job listed.
So if you were using RoadRunner and you load the Road job you created with Xchange you would see the road job listed in the field when you were attaching the Road job to be used.
You can actually convert alignment data say from a LandXML directly on the controller into a Road job if you need to do so.
On the DXF…. It sounds like you are using the Import DXF Data option under the Import Data menu… do not do this… this is useful in some cases but not for what you are doing. Simply place the DXF with your polyline in it in the Data folder on your memory device you are using. When you create a Data job (and this can be changed later if needed) page of to the CAD files page. You can then attach the DXF to the job. What this does is now the DXF is a background image when you view the map in the software. Now none of the entities in the DXF are actually imported into the job until you select them in the map view and then use the command to import them into the job. You just need to view the line in the map view and tap and hold on the line you wish to use… when the menu open just select the import option and the line will become part of your data job.
Know you have the line imported and you can then use either Survey Plus Measure to Line Application or The Stakeout Plus Stake and you can treat it as an alignment. Each application will treat the polyline as a horizontal alignment and you have options for how elevations are handled. You can define a slope from the polyline say for slope staking and a ton of other items. If you are doing simple station and offset work the Reference Line application which creates the Survey Plus Measure to Line Application and Stakeout Plus Stake application. You just need to get the line imported into the job and the use the Measure: Line option. The pictures in the application menus explain what is happening visually. How hard is that?
You also said that you have to define the stationing of a line imported from a DXF file before you can use it. DXF files have no information about stationing or alignments or any roading information in their contents. It would not matter what brand of equipment you are using…. DXF files do not include this information. So… yes if you are using a line from a DXF you have to manually define the stationing. This is not a Leica issue it is a DXF issue.
The Roading conversions in Design to Field in LGO is meant to convert different output files from Cad Design packages to the Leica SmartWorx Road job format. There are a ton of converters and one of these is LandXML. If you do not see the converters you probably need to just download the most recent Design to Field converters from the Leica myWorld site and install the program. It should fill in the missing convertors and will also install a good guide in PDF format explaining the formats and how to convert the files.
These are pretty broad answers but we could step through a real example if you will email me and we can talk about the data options and I could show you on a web meeting how to do this on the Viva simulator.
Thanks a bunch guys. Let me play around some more. I think I'm beginning to see the GREEN light.
Thanks Mr. Putnam and Williams. Operator error. So simple with a little guidance. This site is great!
