Conrad, post: 391113, member: 6642 wrote: What limitation is that?
The inability to display angle right in real time, as described above.
JPH, post: 390940, member: 6636 wrote: I've asked, but the best that could be done is to get the < RT display after the shot is taken, but not when tracking.
Jim Frame, post: 391126, member: 10 wrote: The inability to display angle right in real time, as described above.
The ability to display Angle Right in real-time, while tracking a target, very much exists in Smartworx 8.1, as tested on a TCRP1205+. I dare say if I test it on an instrument running Smartworx Viva it will exist there too.
squowse, post: 390725, member: 7109 wrote: I owned an S6 for about 5 years till early this year. Then used my employer's TS16 for about 6 months. This was my longest time with the Leica robotic instruments.
The software shows promise. It is still very much like Smartworx under the hood. I prefer a few things about Access. Like how you can store your jobs in folders.
Neither Trimble or Leica seem very interested in gathering the wider opinions of their users though. Despite their claims.
The hardware we have pretty much covered I think. Having the controller on the instrument as well as the logger doesn't really interest me. I am used to using the logger for everything. Simpler. The Leica transit screws cannot be operated one handed. Not on the ts16. I prefer the Trimble case. Everything in one box, goes on your back and it doubles as a seat. The laser is slightly better on the Leica. Also the camera and map screens are handled better. All on one page.
I find the Leica less tolerant of wet conditions. The Leica serial port GeoCOM connection is still unencrypted. So you can easily link external devices. Not possible with Trimble of course.
Thanks for sharing the info, haven't worked much with Trimble so it's nice to hear thoughts from an actual user of both instruments. I agree with you completely about beeing able to store jobs in folders, it seems such a no brainer and a quite easy thing to implement. Would be good to hear what's the reasoning for not doing it..
Dan Patterson, post: 390776, member: 1179 wrote: Argh! I find the screw placement infuriating! And you're right about the Leica case - it's junk. "Yes sir, that'll be $30k, and here's your instrument in the flimsy plastic case with flimsy plastic latches that pop off and break."
You're quite wrong if you think that Leica case is fragile or doesn't protect the instrument enough, they've done multiple drop tests etc. before they release the cases and sell them to customers. Haven't had a single broken latch in my experience but yours may differ, of course. About the vertical vs. horizontal case - i agree that the vertical case has its advantages, like its easier to pick it up and carry it for longer distances and, like Squowse said, you can fit a controller in it and it can be used as a stool. But on the other hand, the horizontal Leica case fits better in my car, i can put shoulder straps for carrying it for longer distances so it doesn't really trouble me that much. The thing with separate case for controller still remains though...
The transit screws is a thing of preference, you can't really say for sure that one is in overall better than the other. Just my thoughts.
Arturs, post: 391251, member: 11365 wrote: Thanks for sharing the info, haven't worked much with Trimble so it's nice to hear thoughts from an actual user of both instruments. I agree with you completely about beeing able to store jobs in folders, it seems such a no brainer and a quite easy thing to implement. Would be good to hear what's the reasoning for not doing it..
Not quite sure what this is about, but all the files for a single job in viva smartworx is stored in a unique folder. This is a change from the system 1200
The transit screws is a thing of preference, you can't really say for sure that one is in overall better than the other. Just my thoughts.
Seems to me it's faster if u aren't holding something in one hand, and slower if you are. Not better or worse, just different.
Conrad, post: 391259, member: 6642 wrote: Not quite sure what this is about, but all the files for a single job in viva smartworx is stored in a unique folder. This is a change from the system 1200
Yes, the jobs internally are stored in DBX folder (if i'm not mistaken), but it was meant in a way that one could create a project folder in Captivate/Viva in which you could create separate jobs (for each day lets say). So that if you're working on one big project you would not have to go through all the jobs that are on the controller to find the job your're working on. They would be a bit better organized.
Agree with what you said about transit screws.
Conrad, post: 391213, member: 6642 wrote: The ability to display Angle Right in real-time, while tracking a target, very much exists in Smartworx 8.1, as tested on a TCRP1205+. I dare say if I test it on an instrument running Smartworx Viva it will exist there too.
It tracks in < Rt when I'm in Survey, but not when I'm in Traverse, which is what I'm using to locate monuments as well.
Arturs, post: 391251, member: 11365 wrote: Thanks for sharing the info, haven't worked much with Trimble so it's nice to hear thoughts from an actual user of both instruments. I agree with you completely about beeing able to store jobs in folders, it seems such a no brainer and a quite easy thing to implement. Would be good to hear what's the reasoning for not doing it..
You're quite wrong if you think that Leica case is fragile or doesn't protect the instrument enough, they've done multiple drop tests etc. before they release the cases and sell them to customers. Haven't had a single broken latch in my experience but yours may differ, of course. About the vertical vs. horizontal case - i agree that the vertical case has its advantages, like its easier to pick it up and carry it for longer distances and, like Squowse said, you can fit a controller in it and it can be used as a stool. But on the other hand, the horizontal Leica case fits better in my car, i can put shoulder straps for carrying it for longer distances so it doesn't really trouble me that much. The thing with separate case for controller still remains though...
The transit screws is a thing of preference, you can't really say for sure that one is in overall better than the other. Just my thoughts.
Didn't say the case is fragile....well maybe I lumped it in with the latches the way I phrased it, but the latches are definitely crap. They pop off all the time.
Dan Patterson, post: 391273, member: 1179 wrote: Didn't say the case is fragile....well maybe I lumped it in with the latches the way I phrased it, but the latches are definitely crap. They pop off all the time.
I see, misunderstood you. Are you talking about the new Leica cases for Captivate series like GVP725
JPH, post: 391271, member: 6636 wrote: It tracks in < Rt when I'm in Survey, but not when I'm in Traverse, which is what I'm using to locate monuments as well.
Ah, traverse... yucky. Never found that program much good for doing anything other than automating the turning of rounds.
This sounds odd though. AR displays fine in traverse for me in the simulator. What is the AR field doing while you are tracking but before you take a distance? What page are you on while tracking?
Dan Patterson, post: 391273, member: 1179 wrote: Didn't say the case is fragile....well maybe I lumped it in with the latches the way I phrased it, but the latches are definitely crap. They pop off all the time.
My 1100 case has a lot of chips in the bottom ribs. I wouldn't call the case fragile, but it's not near as sturdy as my old Topcon or Geodimeter cases.
Arturs, post: 391289, member: 11365 wrote: I see, misunderstood you. Are you talking about the new Leica cases for Captivate series like GVP725
1200 series cases and Geomax zoom 90 case I have seem to be of the same type. I'm not disparaging Leica. I just bought the new zoom 90 (not Leica but hexagon) and love my 1203. I just think the old geodimeter cases seemed better. Like the Trimble 5600 case seems indestructible
Dan Patterson, post: 391327, member: 1179 wrote: 1200 series cases and Geomax zoom 90 case I have seem to be of the same type. I'm not disparaging Leica. I just bought the new zoom 90 (not Leica but hexagon) and love my 1203. I just think the old geodimeter cases seemed better. Like the Trimble 5600 case seems indestructible
I see, the latches from "old" Leica cases does occasionally break, i agree. Will see if the new cases will stand the test of time better.
Conrad, post: 391298, member: 6642 wrote: Ah, traverse... yucky. Never found that program much good for doing anything other than automating the turning of rounds.
This sounds odd though. AR displays fine in traverse for me in the simulator. What is the AR field doing while you are tracking but before you take a distance? What page are you on while tracking?
Is it giving you the actual angle right or the azimuth, (which might be the same, if you're giving a dummy azimuth of 00-00-00 to start with)?
JPH, post: 391347, member: 6636 wrote: Is it giving you the actual angle right or the azimuth, (which might be the same, if you're giving a dummy azimuth of 00-00-00 to start with)?
I can make it display either, or both at the same time.
JPH, post: 391347, member: 6636 wrote: Is it giving you the actual angle right or the azimuth, (which might be the same, if you're giving a dummy azimuth of 00-00-00 to start with)?
If I setup with resection or multiple backlights option then AR will be same as Hz. If I set up with known backsight or set azimuth then it will display true AR with respect to the backsight.
I really never had a problem liking one over the other (AR vs. Azi) Once I understood the Traverse Results screen displayed Azimuth, and stopped freaking out thinking they were AR.
The S6 really liked my vest. We used it with a Leica 360 which worked great. Turn the BS and FS prisms around so it doesn't mistakenly shoot topo to them.
The new S7 is better. When it is selected to the AT prism it can't see the regular prisms. The AT prism absolutely does not work well in smokey conditions. Have to use the passive Leica 360.
One thing that is annoying is the S7 does not have tracking lights, replaced by video, I guess? Those were very useful on the S6. The video is a little too grainy in certain conditions like heavy forest.