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Posted by: Lee D

Telling a party chief three times how you want something done and still not getting it.

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Posted : 16/08/2018 9:50 am
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Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

New irons and no caps are standard operating procedures for many surveyors. I find them all the time and have talked with a one of our peers and have been told they refuse to use them because they were not personally consulted or informed of the rules. I did some work in a brand new subdivision about 6 months ago and all the pins on the back lines had no caps. This subdivision was not complete but all the back corners were in place and not a single cap.

That's the lever you need to get the guy in front of the board.?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/08/2018 12:47 pm
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Back to the OP, I agree found Mon case is not a complete description.?ÿ Another one that bugs me.?ÿ Original Subdivision plat that states " Set City standard Monuments "X22"?ÿ at all center line intersections and City Standard Monuments"Y22"at all property corners per city standard drawings".?ÿ ?ÿ Jp?ÿ

 
Posted : 16/08/2018 2:15 pm
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X22ƒ??s must have been the 60ds and Y22ƒ??s were probably 2ƒ?square wooden stakes...

 
Posted : 16/08/2018 4:20 pm
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Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

My latest pet peeve is one of many. We are supposed to cap all of our set pins yet few surveyors do. New found irons and they are uncapped.

Hey, when you find an uncapped rebar:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202244565691

 
Posted : 17/08/2018 7:41 pm
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Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

My latest pet peeve is one of many. We are supposed to cap all of our set pins yet few surveyors do. New found irons and they are uncapped.

Hey, when you find an uncapped rebar:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202244565691

 
Posted : 17/08/2018 7:41 pm
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When I was in business, I used 1?«" and 2" aluminum caps on a 16" long 5/8" rebar, and brass caps, all inscribed with the data?ÿpertaining to?ÿthe corner they were intended to represent.?ÿNever set a bare rebar and a full description of the monument was on the plat, no description such as pin, iron, or other such non meaning short cut description were ever used. Also monments established or recovered by survey were fully described or noted in the land description.

I figured we are supposed to be professionals, so why not set a professional monument.

 
Posted : 17/08/2018 8:09 pm
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Posted by: Norman Oklahoma
Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

New irons and no caps are standard operating procedures for many surveyors. I find them all the time and have talked with a one of our peers and have been told they refuse to use them because they were not personally consulted or informed of the rules. I did some work in a brand new subdivision about 6 months ago and all the pins on the back lines had no caps. This subdivision was not complete but all the back corners were in place and not a single cap.

That's the lever you need to get the guy in front of the board.?ÿ

Norman, If I were to go down that road I would probably have to turn in 1/3 to 1/2 of the surveyors in the state. It is that bad. And how would I "prove" that the iron I found is the original iron. By setting irons with no cap it is deniability by design.?ÿ

I went back and looked at all of the surveys in the past year and I have found 3 capped pins out of hundreds. Finding a capped pin is the exception not the rule.

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 2:19 am
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..sometimes think one-sided discussions about coordinates.

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~the field crew~

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 5:46 am
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Norman, If I were to go down that road I would probably have to turn in 1/3 to 1/2 of the surveyors in the state. It is that bad. And how would I "prove" that the iron I found is the original iron. By setting irons with no cap it is deniability by design.?ÿ

You start with the worst offenders and the rest smarten up pretty quick.

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 6:21 am
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Posted by: Nate The Surveyor
Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

My latest pet peeve is one of many. We are supposed to cap all of our set pins yet few surveyors do. New found irons and they are uncapped.

Hey, when you find an uncapped rebar:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F202244565691

Nate's the man.

ubenhavin

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 9:31 am
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Speaking of mon cases - what about those guys who put the cap on upside down and the vehicles pound it down to where no one will ever remove it?

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 10:23 am
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....the lesser version of that is the mon cases with a couple bolts screwing it down, and of course theyƒ??re rusted shut.?ÿ

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 10:26 am
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Most surveyors in my area only show IPF or IPS on their plats. Most attorneys, when given a plat that describes each corner marker will write in their legal description, " To a point"

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 11:01 am
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Posted by: Just A. Surveyor

New irons and no caps are standard operating procedures for many surveyors. I find them all the time and have talked with a one of our peers and have been told they refuse to use them because they were not personally consulted or informed of the rules. I did some work in a brand new subdivision about 6 months ago and all the pins on the back lines had no caps. This subdivision was not complete but all the back corners were in place and not a single cap.

What's the fine for doing this?

 
Posted : 18/08/2018 5:13 pm
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