Idiotic review comments

Idiotic responses.

Thank you for the late night giggle.

1. Your site is vacant, are the abutting properties vacant? Are there any half party walls? Or perhaps full party, half walls?

2. Ramada - the truncated form of the bop term - Ramadamadingdong.
Alternatively: The name "Ramada" is derived from the Spanish term "rama" (meaning branch)[1] and was applied to temporary open air structures called Ramadas that were made of brush or branches (similar to an arbor) and were popular in Arizona during harvest time.[2] Company websites commonly refer to the structure as a "shady resting place."[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramada (I was not aware of this term, thank you for the chance to find some trivia)

3. Would it count if there was a boat on the trailer and an anchor attached to the boat was firmly set into the ground? I guess I am confused: Why have a trailer unless you are going to move it? If they tied a trailer down one day, then untied it the next would you have a partial certification? I certify that this trailer was tied down until it was untied.

You did want idiotic comments back, right?

> On one I have again failed to include a note on possible party walls (the site is vacant and I've said there are no buildings). I suspect she doesn't know what a party wall is.
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> On the other the attorney wants me to use their preferred long form of certification, rewrite the legal description to match measured distances, explain the meaning of "Ramada," and specify if the trailers are tied down.
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> I will wait until tomorrow to respond, after I've walked the Beagle then sat quietly outside with a cup of coffee.
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> In the meantime what are your thoughts on whether the trailers are tied down or not. Doesn't exactly seem to be a survey question to me.

Good morning, Mr. Small. As you may know, the population of attorneys standing on street corners in towns spread out between the Dominion of Canada and the Republic of Mexico has exploded. As a result, even routine real estate transactions are bogged down with blizzards of bizarre questions seemingly generated by some computer program devised by the dictator of North Korona, merely to create billable hours. Your mission, should you decide to accept it, is to provide as many billable hours for the attorneys in question as possible, knowing that they are more likely to move up to ambulance chasing once the means to purchase the billboard ads is available.

Suggested answers:

A. I would describe the walls as more "seasonal" or "festive" than "party", strictly speaking. Does broken glass on the top of a concrete block wall count?

A. By "tied-down" are you referring to the occupants?

The "tie-down" may be important: it may be the difference between "personalty" and "realty", a fixture that is part of the real estate, or personal property.

As to the tie downs, I'm conflicted. We are the eyes on the ground so why not us look to see if a trailer has tie downs. On the other hand, it's not up to us to determine if they are adequate or meet code.

So, I'd have no problem saying no. I'd say yes - with a qualifying statement.

We may often complain about what we perceive as stupid or silly requests, but as I said above, we are the eyes on the ground.

Tie Downs Make It Safer Not A Fixture

In general tie downs have a screw type fixture that makes it easily removable. Tie downs are not neccessarily associated with permanent concrete foundations which i believe are required to make it a fixture. Whether or not it is tied down, the wheels still being on indicate it is not a fixture.

So the big question is "Did the wheels come off?"

Paul in PA

Tie Downs Make It Safer Not A Fixture

Like Dimitri Martin said, "A mobile home with flat tires is a home".

every time I submit a preliminary plan for review..I get the same comment from a certain reviewer..remove preliminary stamp...despite the fact that we both know I am required to put the preliminary stamp on by law (until i issue the signed one)

Recently, I've found that there are two things a surveyor has in his corner with these kinds of idiotic requests:

1. A sensible client: if the client (typically the buyer) is satisfied via some discussion with the surveyor about the issues, the client can then apply pressure to whomever is asking the questions (generally the title company or lender).

2. Time: most of these projects are on a short time frame. Will the title company hold up the closing of a multi-million dollar sale over the definition of "Ramada"? Not likely. Stupid requests normally fall flat against the demands of a looming contract deadline. We've been able to tell lawyers demanding certification modifications and additional notes (that we are not comfortable adding) "no" and make some headway, particularly if our client understands per no. 1 above. Then it becomes some goofy lawyer threatening closing instead of the surveyor. I don't mean to suggest we hold the deal hostage, but when you know it's stupid and your paying client knows it's stupid, you have a lot more leverage against the idiots. This is also why we don't particularly like working for idiot clients.

for the 'party wall' comment...maybe she attended a Gary Kent seminar. 😉

I am kind of in agreement with Dave I. on the tie-down issue.
Maybe it should be noted and qualified even though it is not a survey question as you noted but it is a public safety issue.
But the surveyor should not be the only one making this statement since a surveyor is not aware of all the building codes etc both local and state. It seems that the appraiser should carry the weight of the matter.

The 'Ramada "comment is definitely supreme nitpicking.

better tie down the trailers

with all the tornadoes, the Trailer was actually declared the state bird in Oklahoma.

better tie down the trailers

> with all the tornadoes, the Trailer was actually declared the state bird in Oklahoma.

Not true Perry. Funny, but not true.

B-)

If you tie your beagle to the hitch on the trailer home is either considered "tied down"?

“…explain the meaning of "Ramada," and specify if the trailers are tied down….”

I might understand the Attorney’s position. "Ramadas" are not typically found in trailer parks. They are typically found in higher end communities such as manufactured home communities.

Trellises would be more typical shade structures found in trailer parks.:-D

On the trailer, tied down, or not, it is definitely related to the "attachment" or "Detachment" question. Another issue, can be "Have the tongues been removed?" if they are removed, then they are alot less portable.

Ramada?

Tell them that it is 5.2 miles east, on hwy 84 to Ramada Inn!

🙂

N

Tie Downs Make It Safer Not A Fixture

Tie down question is usually associated with insurance and determination between removable or fixed feature in some states.

My home office is a 1974 Mobile Home. More solid than many frame houses and better insulated. After 40yrs its taxable value is near nothing.

B-)

What's wrong with a description such as:

"mobile home, on wheels"

"mobile home, on blocks"

"mobile home, on struts"

"mobile home, on foundation"

Just saying "trailer" seems incomplete. After all, is it a mobile home, a semi trailer, a cargo container, an Airstream, a temporary construction office, etc., etc.????