If it's hitting rebar, core drilling could be needed.
Is a pipe needed for that location??ÿ Does your area have customs or provisions for setting other types of monuments??ÿ In Oregon, ORS 92.060(3) allows for other types of monuments.
(3) All lot and parcel corners except lot corners of cemetery lots must be marked with monuments of either galvanized iron pipe not less than one-half inch inside diameter or iron or steel rods not less than five-eighths inch in least dimension and not less than 24 inches long. When setting a required monument is impracticable under the circumstances:
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ (a) The surveyor may set another type of monument; or
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ (b) The county surveyor may waive the setting of the monument.
See 92.060(3): https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/92.060
FYI,
That is an old, and I mean really old, version of the statute.?ÿ Since I can remember the Oregon requirements for subdivision or partition plat corners are 5/8" x 30" rebar or 3/4"ID x 30" pipe.
For concrete, the Berntsen type copper plug or brass screws with washer are expectable in all the counties where I have worked.
That being said, a Bosche rotar-hammer makes short work of drilling holes for a 5/8"IR or copper plug.
Is a pipe needed for that location??ÿ Does your area have customs or provisions for setting other types of monuments??ÿ In Oregon, ORS 92.060(3) allows for other types of monuments.
(3) All lot and parcel corners except lot corners of cemetery lots must be marked with monuments of either galvanized iron pipe not less than one-half inch inside diameter or iron or steel rods not less than five-eighths inch in least dimension and not less than 24 inches long. When setting a required monument is impracticable under the circumstances:
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ (a) The surveyor may set another type of monument; or
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ (b) The county surveyor may waive the setting of the monument.
See 92.060(3): https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/92.060
FYI,
That is an old, and I mean really old, version of the statute.?ÿ Since I can remember the Oregon requirements for subdivision or partition plat corners are 5/8" x 30" rebar or 3/4"ID x 30" pipe.
For concrete, the Berntsen type copper plug or brass screws with washer are expectable in all the counties where I have worked.
That being said, a Bosche rotar-hammer makes short work of drilling holes for a 5/8"IR or copper plug.
Is it old??ÿ This legit looking .gov site makes ORS 92.060(3) seem current as of 2017, https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors092.html.?ÿ
But you're correct that no one sets 24" for anything because of ORS 92.060 (1) and (2) which specify other requirements for other types of corners and it is just easier to have 30" which works for all locations and purposes.?ÿ
The setting of another type of monument per ORS 92.060(3)a, which you also pointed out, was supposed to the be the emphasis.?ÿ
?ÿ
Best regards, Eli
set a lead plug with copper tack
Aluminum stem cap with magnet, that's what we use in those situations, grout them in. Then stem has ridges that help fix it in place, the cap can placed on top of the concrete or recessed using a wider bit to ream out the top of the hole. They are easy to stencil.
The map is already recorded, we usually show 3/4" Iron Pipes set on the corner. In order to change the character of the monument set I have to file a certificate of correction.
Recording plats before setting monuments means that you must comply with what you say you did.
Buckleup and ride it till it''s done right.
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That is one reason I NEVER EVER let a plat go out before the monuments are set.
That is one reason I NEVER EVER let a plat go out before the monuments are set.
Well, subdivisions with subsequent constructions destroy your points no matter how much warning you give them, so marking before construction is not preferred. on the other side the map should be recorded before the construction starts.
That is one reason I NEVER EVER let a plat go out before the monuments are set.
Well, subdivisions with subsequent constructions destroy your points no matter how much warning you give them, so marking before construction is not preferred. on the other side the map should be recorded before the construction starts.
It's the catch 22 of modern surveying, sometimes they will strip the entire site and then rework the grading for all the lots, nothing is left. We try to explain to a "new" developer that we have to set monuments after construction so build the costs into the dirt work. The last guy kinda forgot and we just had to go out to the site and stake it all.?ÿOf course, new house construction will probably knock out a number of them again, but once they are in the first time our part is finished.
Set them. ?ÿFile the plat and get paid. ?ÿWhen the fools let them get destroyed, get paid to reset them. ?ÿNEVER file the plat before setting the monuments.
Is a pipe needed for that location??ÿ Does your area have customs or provisions for setting other types of monuments??ÿ In Oregon, ORS 92.060(3) allows for other types of monuments.
(3) All lot and parcel corners except lot corners of cemetery lots must be marked with monuments of either galvanized iron pipe not less than one-half inch inside diameter or iron or steel rods not less than five-eighths inch in least dimension and not less than 24 inches long. When setting a required monument is impracticable under the circumstances:
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ (a) The surveyor may set another type of monument; or
?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ?ÿ (b) The county surveyor may waive the setting of the monument.
See 92.060(3): https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/92.060
FYI,
That is an old, and I mean really old, version of the statute.?ÿ Since I can remember the Oregon requirements for subdivision or partition plat corners are 5/8" x 30" rebar or 3/4"ID x 30" pipe.
For concrete, the Berntsen type copper plug or brass screws with washer are expectable in all the counties where I have worked.
That being said, a Bosche rotar-hammer makes short work of drilling holes for a 5/8"IR or copper plug.
Is it old??ÿ This legit looking .gov site makes ORS 92.060(3) seem current as of 2017, https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/bills_laws/ors/ors092.html.?ÿ /p>
But you're correct that no one sets 24" for anything because of ORS 92.060 (1) and (2) which specify other requirements for other types of corners and it is just easier to have 30" which works for all locations and purposes.?ÿ
The setting of another type of monument per ORS 92.060(3)a, which you also pointed out, was supposed to the be the emphasis.?ÿ
?ÿ
Best regards, Eli
Eli,
I stand corrected.?ÿ In the 29 years I've been surveying in Oregon I don't think I've every set anything but 5/8"x30" iron rods, unless they hit bed rock or something and needed to be cut.?ÿ I'm not sure I've even seen a survey recorded with 24" rods noted.?ÿ
Set the monuments, file the plats and let the developer deal with what happens next.
Set the monuments, file the plats and let the developer deal with what happens next.
Oregon allows the original surveyor to reestablish subdivision monuments with an affidavit for two years after filing the subdivision.?ÿ
ORS 92.070 (5), https://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/92.070
That can be one approach to set the monuments, file the plat, developer bulldozes the monuments.?ÿ
Going the post monumentation route, setting the interior pins after construction, should eliminate the need for resets do to construction activity.?ÿ After the interior monuments have been set then anything else should be on the owners dime.
Assuming that the contractor or client is footing the bill since they wiped out the original corner, why not just set a new monument of a convenient type and record new survey.?ÿ That would give notice to future surveyors that the original plat corner they found in the concrete footing was in fact in the correct location.
