I got a call last Friday, as I was headed out the door. The guy had bought a piece of lake front property last year and was looking to have it surveyed. seems there's a discrepancy with the neighbor, who's lived there for ever...
I had surveyed a piece of property across the lake; and I've talked with other surveyors, so I know this is a difficult area to survey (at best).
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These are the details:
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This is a good start; we all know that the GIS isn't perfect, but it's my guess; it's not to far off.
If I tell him the best thing to do is a Boundary Line Agreement; it's going to have a domino effect, up and down the lake.
Is the best thing to do; Nothing?
I see this kind of thing more than I like; does this happen in your neck of the woods too?
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Thanks in advance, to all of the good people here, You're the best!!!
Dougie
My experience as a Vermont justice of the peace and member of a town board of civil authority, which hears appeals of the appraisal of properties for property tax purposes (tax appraisal):
There are three things which are not necessarily connected, and a change to one does not automatically change the others:
- The GIS tax parcel maps
- The numerical data used in tax appraisals, including road frontage, lake frontage, and acreage.
- The actual location of the property boundary on the ground, which is approximated by the deed.
So just seeing a GIS map with boundaries with boundaries running through buildings would not make me expect that the actual boundaries as indicated by the deed and monuments in the ground run through any buildings. I would not expect the filing of a deed to automatically lead to any change in the GIS map, nor to any change in the tax appraisal.
As I said; I am familiar with this area; while the property lines might not run through the buildings, but I won't be surprised when they do.
This was an area developed in the 19060's. This particular lot was part of an unrecorded plat; described in the deed, to follow the plat.
Most of the transactions have been cash, and are old family property. every once in a while; someone comes along and finds a family more interested in money, than family property, and ends up moving into the middle of a neighborhood that doesn't take kindly to strangers (maybe). They definitely don't want somebody coming in and upsetting the applecart...
This is showing all the signs of a hostile environment.
How much do you charge for that?
What's with lake property? They always seem to be chaotic. Every dang time!!!
If you take it on, don't bid it or even give a rough estimate and tell them it could cost almost anything.?ÿ
The deed is a huge read flag.?ÿ
Lake property ahead!!!!!?ÿ RUN THE OTHER WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Too many assume cheap land is inexpensive land to survey.?ÿ You can't get much more wrongest than that, folks.
What's with lake property?
It started out as fishing shack, in the 60's; nobody cared, it was cheap property. Then they figured out that boats could be used for recreation; it was a game changer. These turned from fishing shacks, into summer cabins. Families would spend time out here; barbeques; picnics; neighborhood parties; nobody cared where there lines were; share and share alike. kids were running up and down the shore; swimming; water skiing; playing hide and seek; tag; red rover; snipe hunting; everybody had a gay old time.
The older generation started to die off; the next generations didn't care; it was a cash cow and they had better things to spend their money on, so they sold it.
In Washington, it's buyer beware; good luck trying to get your title company to fix it when you tell them the neighbors house is over the line. You should've hired a surveyor, first. A lot of good that's going to do, it's doesn't fix it, it just let's you know, you don't want to buy the property. That's what happened at the survey I did across the lake. About all it did was throw up a red flag and my client walked away. He did get the seller to pay half...
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Anyone ever think about where the household sewage goes on these postage stamp tracts that are 90 percent covered by improvements with about six inches of soil above rock down the center of the Earth.
Funny thing is, water front property is at a premium out here.
The value is calculated by the foot of shoreline. If it's saltwater, fergetaboutit.
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Finger Lakes in NY worth more than Tahoe in the 80's.?ÿ Not sure now.