I am sure sombody can talk you through the process of staking your coordinates. What you dont seem to understand is that those coordinates will not be your property corners. The distances and bearings that your coordinates are based on are only one of many pieces of evidence that a surveyor would use to find the actual corner location.
cptdent, post: 324449, member: 527 wrote: Boy, I sure hope no one on the Texas State Board of Registration is on this site!
If they get wind of it, "Mr. Knowitall" is going to have a real BIG problem.
Before starting this endeavor perhaps reading up on the State Regs as to what constitutes "Surveying without a license" might be VERY enlightening. The simple truth Kelley., the second you start "establishing" a boundar4y line, you are in DEEP dewdew.
Also, don't forget, when it comes to land and property lines, the FIRST one to get their panties in a wad and start making noises about taking you to court over the land "you stole from them", is a family member.
I am using the tools that I have a my disposal to locate points, If I am unable to locate a point I will back up and punt. I may end up hiring a surveyor to set new points if I am unable to locate them.. If this was an acre or two I wouldn't have a problem taking a pin finder, tape measure and seeing what I can locate, however when you're taking about a full section of land I am not about to even try, my part is 30 acres that is as far from square as you could get..
Please provide me with the information that states I can not locate my property markers and straight line between them.. What I am doing is no different than you walking a straight line from the curb in front of your house down your property line while pushing your lawn mower (except I'm using a forestry mulcher), sure you may cut some of your neighbors grass but if that is ok with them, no harm no foul.. My fence will be offset enough off the property line so I can brush hog on both sides of my fence. so If he was to get pissed off at me the worst thing I will have to do is buy a bunch of hogs and put them in the hog pen that is on my property an is about 100' north of his house..
aliquot, post: 324455, member: 2486 wrote: I am sure sombody can talk you through the process of staking your coordinates. What you dont seem to understand is that those coordinates will not be your property corners. The distances and bearings that your coordinates are based on are only one of many pieces of evidence that a surveyor would use to find the actual corner location.
I do understand that, and If I can't find them i will go another route..
"Pocket compass and 100' tape (200' if you have it). Use the correct magnetic declination (google it)."
~ Dave Karoly ~
That made the most sense to me. Err on the side of caution and offset it about ten foot for a privacy barrier of pine and yaupon between you and the neighbor so you don't get tired of seeing them. 🙂
I think it's changed now from clearing brush to erecting a fence though. I think calling the original surveyor to mark the corners is the sanest bet at this point.
R.J. Schneider, post: 324460, member: 409 wrote: That made the most sense to me. Err on the side of caution and offset it about ten foot for a privacy barrier of pine and yaupon between you and the neighbor so you don't get tired of seeing them. 🙂
Pine and Yaupon? heck, you miss 1 round of cutting bahia and the tallow trees will be 30' tall.. lol
Good luck with your efforts and I sincerely hope you don't get too mad at some of the advice you have received. As a regular, I have to tell you we get 4-5 posts a month from the general public who have no business trying to survey on their own (your experience is more than general public though) and sometimes we're just better off not responding, but we usually do anyway. You just got to filter the admonitions from the useful advice.
Now you're putting up a fence? GUH! Good luck, man.
Andy Nold, post: 324469, member: 7 wrote: sometimes we're just better off not responding, but we usually do anyway.
When it comes to protecting people's property rights, we should respond. We are, after all, stewards of the boundary line. I know many many people do things they shouldn't be doing (concerning property lines and corner markers) and that's ok I guess, but I'm not helping.
cptdent, post: 324449, member: 527 wrote: Boy, I sure hope no one on the Texas State Board of Registration is on this site!
If they get wind of it, "Mr. Knowitall" is going to have a real BIG problem.
:good:
Yet after many comments saying this could create a problem even for an out of state PS he chucks his buddy under the bus.
Kelley350x, post: 324432, member: 10119 wrote:
i most definitely understand the difference and that is why I had my buddy (a licensed surveyor and engineer) convert all of our old surveys to an autocad file, I know good and well I couldn't go survey land I have never had the need to learn how to. when converting it to a format that I fully understand is pretty simple and works better for mapping everything on the land.
First, why are you using a transit? Do you have a chain and a helper?
At any rate, transit or total station, since you have the values for the deed in your data collector, step on out there and make a new point like 100 and give it a dummy value 5000,5000 or something. Then, get a boy scout compass and derive a direction from one of the corners to where you are going to put your transit/total station. Then, measure that distance. Then, set up the transit/total station on that point, backsight from whence you came with 00°00'00" in your transit/total station, and turn an angle to the next corner you can see and measure that distance. Then, input that data into the nomad. THEN rotate your three dummy points using the dummy reference bearing to the actual one between the corners. Then translate the three dummy values to one of the corners. THEN inverse between the other corner and your dummy value. If you hit it okay, then you're up and running and can stake out the rest with your transit/total station thing.
That's the method.
I am a little confused, either you are looking for existing corners, or you're staking the corners, it can't be both. In the first case it's not that difficult to find existing points, but it's a whole different issue if you're staking. Which is it?
foggyidea, post: 324605, member: 155 wrote: I am a little confused, either you are looking for existing corners, or you're staking the corners, it can't be both. In the first case it's not that difficult to find existing points, but it's a whole different issue if you're staking. Which is it?
Roger that Foggy!
Kelley350x, post: 324432, member: 10119 wrote: i most definitely understand the difference and that is why I had my buddy (a licensed surveyor and engineer) convert all of our old surveys to an autocad file, I know good and well I couldn't go survey land I have never had the need to learn how to. when converting it to a format that I fully understand is pretty simple and works better for mapping everything on the land.
These types of posts are always strange.
First:
If you are unlicensed and want to do a boundary survey, and ask how to do it on this forum, you will get flamed. You will also get advice, because we are all know-it-alls and can't help ourselves.
Second:
Why doesn't your buddy help you out? If you do it per his direction and guidance and "responsible charge", then it is his survey. You can do the field work. So it makes the whole thing seem strange for you to need help here.
Third:
I am pretty sure that the manual for that data collector software is available on-line. I am not making a smart a$$ statement, but telling you what I would do. If I needed to find out how to run that software, I would read the manual.
So, to sum up my expert advice: work under the supervision of your licensed friend, read up on the software, and find a way to get your brother to do the work of clearing everything.
Edit:
Per the Google!
http://hayeshelp.com/gps/documents/tds/Survey_Pro_45_Recon-Nomad_Users.pdf