Do any of the smart watches have mapping apps?
I just got a Pixel 3 phone and was thinking about trying to rig a couple of velcro straps to keep it on my forearm for heavy brush recon.
I know you are trying to get by cheap, but you don't already have a data collector with built in GPS do you??ÿ We have one brand new Ranger and a slightly older one that have built in GPS.?ÿ They let you even collect shots and work on common coordinate systems.?ÿ Rangers are made by Spectra Precision now which is owned by Trimble.
Yeah I have a very expensive and bulky RT3 Tablet data collector that does what I am in search of from a smaller and less expensive hand held unit.
I have considered a older GPS capable data collector but I have not searched for one, though they are still a lot bigger than I am wanting.
Out of the hand held ones I really liked the Trimble Juno sb. We have used the Garmin etrex 20, but I found it frustrating to put in the corner description of the points I was looking for. The Juno also had a few COGO features such as inverse, which was handy.
Out of the hand held ones I really liked the Trimble Juno sb. We have used the Garmin etrex 20, but I found it frustrating to put in the corner description of the points I was looking for. The Juno also had a few COGO features such as inverse, which was handy.
I had never heard of the Trimble Juno but am looking at it now.
Seems like it is what I am looking for. Found some used ones on ebay.
Is it a data collector for running a gun or just a hand held data logger and navigation tool?
We just used it as a navigation tool. Just a quick search on eBay and I found this.
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I have used a Garmin GLO with a rugged, or semi-rugged tablet along with QGIS to map, and navigate for several years.
I have found several 8" Windows Tablets for less than $500, and the GLO costs about $110.
I have used 10, and 12 inch tablets with great success, but there are times when a smaller unit would be a bit more convenient.
You can import a DXF file, Shape File, or create a Geopackage file from a DWG, along with importing imagery, contours, Local, State, and Federal information,?ÿ in the proper projection, or state plane coordinates, interface with the GLO via Bluetooth, and go to the field with a complete map.
You can also export Garmin image files from QGIS so long as the projection is set to WGS84.
If I am not mistaken, the GLO will interface via Bluetooth with just about any hardware, and it outputs a true NMEA string, so it should work with just about any navigation software you may have.?ÿ
Assuming you have an iPhone....Cats Meow. 2.5m accuracy - close enough
N10,000, E7,000, Z100.00
PLS - IL, MO, AR, KS, MN, KY
This would also work and can bluetooth/WiFi to any "smart" device.
Never seen two women enjoy a GNSS receiver like that before. Strange...Maybe it helped them find Romeo??ÿ
N10,000, E7,000, Z100.00
PLS - IL, MO, AR, KS, MN, KY
I am thinking the Juno is what I should get.
Be aware, I was just looking at them and alot of the Juno is not GLONASS.?ÿ I want duel/triple constellation for woods work.
Be aware, I was just looking at them and alot of the Juno is not GLONASS.?ÿ I want duel/triple constellation for woods work.
Well damn.........that sucks and I too want it for woods work and two constellations.?ÿ I won't be greedy and demand 4 but come on. Oh well I guess that idea is shot.
You wrote: What would you buy?
It must be able to handle State Plane Coordinates.
If would be nice if it could support a basic DXF file for a back ground that shows property lines.
It needs to be able to sync to my computer for file transfer and points transfer.
I know I am leaving off a lot, but lay it on me, which one would you buy??ÿ
Garmin personal handhelds are the cheapest especially combined with free DNRGPS and Garmin's Mapsource (deprecated, but still works) and don't forget entire US background topo for $100.?ÿ The navigation is what the Garmin is best at, but it won't display StatePlane coordinates.?ÿ 7 parameter shifters from NAD83 to WGS84 is possible in DNRGPS, but this conversion has to happen during every upload and download.?ÿ GPX is very common, but again, all GPX is subject to being only in native WGS84 LL, so there is that.?ÿ I agree with the Map76CSx, as the best GPS Garmin has ever produced.?ÿ Turn WAAs on and you have a decent GPS in most any condition.?ÿ Calibrate the compass and you'll walk up to a well collected GPS point within 2 meters - phenomenal.
I wouldn't go with the Trimble Juno series.?ÿ The chipset is not that good, and you'll have to go with windows mobile software.?ÿ Terrasync is what I use, and combined with Pathfinder Office software, you can load and generate DXF, in StatePlane, but for a navigation device, it falls way short to a Garmin in simplicity.
The [REDACTED] app looks promising - and it comes with bluemarbles excellent transformation engine.?ÿ I didn't look deep enough, but maybe it can handle DXF.
Garmin's latest PND's are all about silly geocaching and seeing how many steps you walked.?ÿ?ÿ
Another option if you can generate georeferenced PDF's is going with Avenza.?ÿ Simple to use, but you'll have to shift your NAD83 DXF's to WGS84 if you want to get down on the meter.
Like to hear what you settled on.
Joel
You wrote: What would you buy?
It must be able to handle State Plane Coordinates.
If would be nice if it could support a basic DXF file for a back ground that shows property lines.
It needs to be able to sync to my computer for file transfer and points transfer.
I know I am leaving off a lot, but lay it on me, which one would you buy??ÿ
Garmin personal handhelds are the cheapest especially combined with free DNRGPS and Garmin's Mapsource (deprecated, but still works) and don't forget entire US background topo for $100.?ÿ The navigation is what the Garmin is best at, but it won't display StatePlane coordinates.?ÿ 7 parameter shifters from NAD83 to WGS84 is possible in DNRGPS, but this conversion has to happen during every upload and download.?ÿ GPX is very common, but again, all GPX is subject to being only in native WGS84 LL, so there is that.?ÿ I agree with the Map76CSx, as the best GPS Garmin has ever produced.?ÿ Turn WAAs on and you have a decent GPS in most any condition.?ÿ Calibrate the compass and you'll walk up to a well collected GPS point within 2 meters - phenomenal.
I wouldn't go with the Trimble Juno series.?ÿ The chipset is not that good, and you'll have to go with windows mobile software.?ÿ Terrasync is what I use, and combined with Pathfinder Office software, you can load and generate DXF, in StatePlane, but for a navigation device, it falls way short to a Garmin in simplicity.
The [REDACTED] app looks promising - and it comes with bluemarbles excellent transformation engine.?ÿ I didn't look deep enough, but maybe it can handle DXF.
Garmin's latest PND's are all about silly geocaching and seeing how many steps you walked.?ÿ?ÿ
Another option if you can generate georeferenced PDF's is going with Avenza.?ÿ Simple to use, but you'll have to shift your NAD83 DXF's to WGS84 if you want to get down on the meter.
Like to hear what you settled on.
Joel
Well crap after reading this I don't know I will get a Juno. But I can tell you I don't want to have to go through a bunch of conversions as you describe with the Garmin. I want to be able to input SPC and go. I could if necessary use LatLong but that is not something I want to do every bloody time.
The Juno is still leading the pack.
You wrote: What would you buy?
It must be able to handle State Plane Coordinates.
If would be nice if it could support a basic DXF file for a back ground that shows property lines.
It needs to be able to sync to my computer for file transfer and points transfer.
I know I am leaving off a lot, but lay it on me, which one would you buy??ÿ
Garmin personal handhelds are the cheapest especially combined with free DNRGPS and Garmin's Mapsource (deprecated, but still works) and don't forget entire US background topo for $100.?ÿ The navigation is what the Garmin is best at, but it won't display StatePlane coordinates.?ÿ 7 parameter shifters from NAD83 to WGS84 is possible in DNRGPS, but this conversion has to happen during every upload and download.?ÿ GPX is very common, but again, all GPX is subject to being only in native WGS84 LL, so there is that.?ÿ I agree with the Map76CSx, as the best GPS Garmin has ever produced.?ÿ Turn WAAs on and you have a decent GPS in most any condition.?ÿ Calibrate the compass and you'll walk up to a well collected GPS point within 2 meters - phenomenal.
I wouldn't go with the Trimble Juno series.?ÿ The chipset is not that good, and you'll have to go with windows mobile software.?ÿ Terrasync is what I use, and combined with Pathfinder Office software, you can load and generate DXF, in StatePlane, but for a navigation device, it falls way short to a Garmin in simplicity.
The [REDACTED] app looks promising - and it comes with bluemarbles excellent transformation engine.?ÿ I didn't look deep enough, but maybe it can handle DXF.
Garmin's latest PND's are all about silly geocaching and seeing how many steps you walked.?ÿ?ÿ
Another option if you can generate georeferenced PDF's is going with Avenza.?ÿ Simple to use, but you'll have to shift your NAD83 DXF's to WGS84 if you want to get down on the meter.
Like to hear what you settled on.
Joel
Well crap after reading this I don't know if I should get a Juno.
But I can tell you I don't want to have to go through a bunch of conversions as you describe with the Garmin. I want to be able to input SPC and go. I could if necessary use LatLong but that is not something I want to do every bloody time.
The Juno is still leading the pack and am liking what I have read on the specs.
MobileMapper is listed at $999 in the APE catalog.
I think for the money the Garmin's are great, if you need more accuracy or SPC, then use your survey grade gear, I think you are expecting too much "survey like" ability from a handheld. Not sure if all have GPS/GLONASS but the 64 series does and allows topo maps to be loaded.
Really the Latitude/Longitude isn't bad and you could use UTM I suppose if you want grid coordinates for navigation.
As previously mentioned I use this handy utility: www.expertgps.com and I can get data into any of my Garmin's in short order.
SHG
For casual GPS and the ability to pick a point on Google Earth and input into the unit, Garmin has always put me on the location close enough to find what I was looking for.
The GOTO function will allow me to flag a line across wooded terroritory close enough for a dozer to open a path for building a straight fence after running traverse.
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I would opt for one separate from the phone for the reasons Toivo stated.?ÿ But also, if you work in areas where the cell coverage is spotty or non-existent, phone GPS is useless.?ÿ I don't know about the external antennae that might be designed for smartphones.?ÿ Maybe they fix that problem.
After looking at a few different units, I just bought a Garmin Montana 610t.?ÿ The Montana 680 was recently released to replace the 610, so you can find some pretty good deals on the 610 now (check Cabelas - $250 off MSRP).?ÿ the 610 has UTM and National Grid loaded, and has the ability to load up user defined systems, so will do SPC.
I opted for the Montana mostly for screen size, but some of the 64 series, being replaced with the 66 series, has many of the same capabilities, with the upper end of that series also, IIRC able to work with user defined grid systems.?ÿ Because it's being phased out, you can similarly find good deals on the 64s and 64st (again, check Cabelas and/or Bass Pro).
With the low cost and the enhanced coverage, I wouldn't bother with anything that doesn't have both GPS and GLONASS.
I would opt for one separate from the phone for the reasons Toivo stated.?ÿ But also, if you work in areas where the cell coverage is spotty or non-existent, phone GPS is useless.?ÿ I don't know about the external antennae that might be designed for smartphones.?ÿ Maybe they fix that problem
On my iPhone (or iOS devices), the GPS works even if there is no cell coverage. If you are using maps, you would have to have them downloaded or cached, but the GPS positioning works.
Not quite what the original poster was asking for but a bit relevant to the discussion?ÿ??.a dual-frequency GNSS chip was introduced by Broadcom last year. At this point, Xiaomi, a Chinese mobile phone manufacturer is the only one I know that has a phone on the market with this chip, and you cannot buy that phone in the US. I am due for a new phone 🙂 and am watching the cell phone market, and waiting for a dual-frequency GNSS phone to become available in the US. That should give us improved positional accuracy with our phones.
Then you need some good apps to get what you want.