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JOHN MACOLINI
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Happens all the time. Biggest purchase that people make, and they're not entirely sure what they're buying.


 
Posted : May 16, 2014 10:08 am
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But they will go out and buy a new front door for $1000.00 plus and redo the landscaping for several thousand.


 
Posted : May 16, 2014 11:06 am
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> You said you just want to know where your boundaries are located. The key is that is the ultimate question of fact in a boundary survey. It is a legal question, not an engineering problem or mere technical exercise. Engineers use scientific principles reduced to engineering procedures and judgment to solve problems. Land surveyors do that too but with principles of law and legal procedure controlling the final outcome. The reasoning is closer to what the lawyer and judge does than what the engineer does. Engineers often fail to grasp this key point.
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> I think it's great that a few property owners are actually interested in understanding something about their boundaries beyond just assuming it's the fence or mowing line. But you should realize that the location of your boundary is the ultimate question that will be asked if you get into a legal battle with your neighbor due to something you do in playing around with located boundaries yourself without assistance.
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> $600 is cheap, you should grab that now.

Great response Dave.

Mr. Details: To be fair legal battles with neighbors is Vary rare, but if you get in a bind it is best to know what you are arguing about. $600? sounds cheep to me, maybe you should interview a couple more local surveyors before you jump on that.

I too struggled with the math thing for a long time. It is much more than Geometry.


 
Posted : May 16, 2014 12:47 pm
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I'm not an Aeronautic Engineer

Mr. Detail,

I'm trying to design my own helicopter for personal use to get to remote fishing spots. I'm not an aeronautic engineer, but if you tell me just how much more surface area is required on the top side of a rotor blade than is on the bottom side, and how much range of pitch I need to work in for them, I'm sure I can take it from there.

Sound a bit unrealistic? Like nearly all engineers, you've looked at surveying as little more than the application of (very simple) math by the use of moderately easy to use equipment. That's the rough equivalent of thinking that designing helicopters requires little more than knowing what shape the wings need to be, and figuring how to attach them to a motor to spin them round fast enough to lift the bubble the pilot sits in.

Math and measuring are the most readily visible tasks in what we do. They are also the simplest. So easy, that almost half of the practicing engineers and the majority of everyone else can be trained to do it adequately with minimal training.*

The rest of what we do requires several years of training, including in some cases, about the same amount of education as you were required to have to attain your license.

* Engineers are more difficult to train because they're usually already so convinced that they already know the basics by virtue of their engineering education and experience that they are no longer very teachable. It's very difficult for a person to learn something new when they already know virtually everything and know that they are smarter than the teacher.


 
Posted : May 16, 2014 5:39 pm
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