Are you saying if the paved road here is 24 1/2 feet wide than to get the 49 1/2 feet I would measure over from the pavement another 12 1/2 feet on each side. No the
pin set or found by the surveyor is not at the edge of the right of way. The pin set is located from the edge of the street 15 feet on my property
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Measuring 24 1/2 feet from centerline I will be 12 1/4 feet into the neighboring houses back yard. From this place of 12 1/4 feet of their yard would be the starting point to find a pin. Then every 55 foot is a lot. Is this correct? Thanks
Not necessarily.
The physical paved street is not the same as the right-of-way. The centerline of the right-of-way may or may not be in the center of the pavement. It is not unusual in rural type streets (no curb and gutter) to have the pavement not centered.
It is a start to measure over from the center of the pavement to look for pins but sometimes it doesn't work.
These lots have a street in the front and back. With a side street to enter both front and back street. Plat map says 49 1/2 feet from street behind our house and from the side street. Does this mean to find the pin find the 49 1/2 feet from the side road and the 49 1/2 feet from the back road will be the location of the first corner pin? Thanks so many questions sorry
I would need to see the Plat because I don't understand your question.
> Are you saying if the paved road here is 24 1/2 feet wide than to get the 49 1/2 feet I would measure over from the pavement another 12 1/2 feet on each side. No the
> pin set or found by the surveyor is not at the edge of the right of way. The pin set is located from the edge of the street 15 feet on my property
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> Thanks
If the Right-of-Way width is 49.5 and the pavement width is 24.5 then the property pins along the Right-of-Way line should be 12.5 feet from the edge of the pavement. If you measure 15 feet, then that just means the pavement isn't centered. This is not a big deal; it happens all the time.
Have you retained an Ohio Surveyor yet?
Who says that the paved street is centered on the Right-of-Way, can't measure anything correctly from pavement C/L unless Pavement C/L is also the ROW C/L. You need to get a surveyor. There is sound reason that a license is required to practice Surveying, in most states it requires 8 years of the proper education and experience acceptable to the Board also the Board requires recommendations from licensed Surveyors and others in order to allow you to sit for the exam, even when licensed, continuing education requirements need to be meet in order to renew your license. You may think you can now survey your land yourself with the words you found in this forum, you have only been exposed to enough to get yourself into trouble. Granted, if you can locate the proper starting point you can do some measuring to see if improvements are a reasonable fit with record, but that has absolutely no legal standing. Get your land surveyed, then you will know if there is agreement between your surveyors placement of your common line and the previous work the neighbor had done, if not, the surveyors need to be talking to each other before you or your neighbor place yourselves into the mix. Boundary Surveying requires knowledge of law, its application and judgement, a surveyor is much more that an expert measure'er and usually they are the only people involved with land law and sales that look out for your interests, why, liability. Hire a surveyor and let us all know how this plays out.
jud
This is EXACTLY why you need to hire a local surveyor licensed in Ohio. These things will be second nature to him/her.
Carl
Let me be blunt: Why are you avoiding hiring a land surveyor? Just make the call! You'll get a survey completed for YOU, a map you can refer to, and the professional opinion that you can rely on. Take the map to the neighbor, show her your surveyor's results, and act accordingly. No more guesswork. This is what we do for a living!
I am not confident that will help.
There was a case here in an old neighborhood. First surveyor comes up with a solution which harmonizes with another survey nearby from 20 years ago. Neighbor hires another local surveyor who has different opinion 1' into the first survey. So now they have two lines overlapping each other. So property owners naturally think someone must be incompetent. So they go to the PPC which says no one did anything wrong, just a difference of opinion. Their main beef is neither surveyor set the block corners which the property owners don't care about.
Personally I think the second surveyor, who I used to work for, let his ego get in the way of good judgment. When multiple solutions are available and the neighbor's surveyor used a reasonable solution then I shouldn't set monuments at my favored spot just because I like it better.
I am not trying to do the surveying myself. I am just trying to located the pins. Never mind. I was trying to get some helpful info from this web site.
As others have pointed out, the traveled portion of the street might not be centered in the right of way. However that's not an unreasonable assumption to make as a starting point.
So, assuming the total width of both street rights of way is 49.5 feet and assuming the traveled portion of both streets is centered in the right of way, a good place to start looking for a pin would be 24.75 feet measured perpendicular from the center of the side street and 24.75 feet measured perpendicular from the center of the back street.
> I am not trying to do the surveying myself. I am just trying to located the pins. Never mind. I was trying to get some helpful info from this web site.
You got a lot of helpful advice, interested in knowing how it turns out.
> .....I am just trying to located the pins
What makes you think that isn't surveying?
Why are you trying to located the pins? Is it because you want to know where your property corners are?
Who are you going to blame; when your neighbor hires a surveyor and proves those "pins" are not the corners of the property? If you hire a surveyor, you can blame him; if you don't, it's all on you.......
I am not going to blame anyone. As the land owner I have the right to know where the pins are. What is the big deal. I can choose to find them (myself or with a surveyor.
Or I can find them then get it surveyed. I was told where I live, finding the pins is not a survey.
I have called the guy who did the surveying. No reply back. I keep calling.
