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(@dougie)
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> 'eight-tenths foot' sounds funny and I would think the "of a" should be inserted to imply the appropriate intended pronunciation.
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> I think I'm going to ask on that wordcraft page.
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> Tom

Ask them if 0.8 might be read as eight-tenths feet. I don't think I would ever say something like that, but then I might be wrong.

Radar

 
Posted : April 14, 2011 10:22 am
(@paul-plutae)
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feet or foot? Steve

> No curbs, walks. This is sort of semi-rural in the middle of a block with all the parcels on private drives. In fact this 0.55-acre Parcel A of the one-parcel Parcel Map was land-locked ...

The fence builder had to be extremely lucky in placing the fence that close without a survey. I would bet that one or more of the monuments used to build that fence are encased in the footing of the corner posts.

 
Posted : April 14, 2011 10:23 am
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At least somebody with some pretty good measuring ability. It's not like there's been no surveying done around this neighborhood. The west line of the 1/2 acre is an old lot line of the large lot subdivision that was done in 1914 so it's not surprising there would be an old occupation line that could have been perpetuated. The northeast corner is the 2-inch pipe which is an angle point in a 1960 subdivision to the North, so somebody's brother-in-law that worked on a survey crew for two summers could probably get pretty close to laying out the nominally rectangular lot within a foot or two.

If I've described this clearly enough, maybe you have the idea of how this lays out: The attorney owns a parcel the north line of which is the north line of my dad's 1976 survey, the 2-inch pipe being the northwest corner of that parcel. He's in escrow to buy the 1/2 acre West of him where the one-parcel Parcel Map shows that pipe 1.07' off. You think that's pincushioning, get a load of this: The attorney's parcel that my dad surveyed in 1976 was described as 230 feet wide. My dad found an identical 2-inch pipe on the north line, but the two pipes were (are) 230.93' apart so he set his own rebar at the northeast corner on line at 230.00. Also at that northeast corner was a 1-inch capped pipe that my dad called off by 0.10' and a 3/4-inch iron pipe that he called off by 0.90' to the southeast. So fast-forward to 2006, there are 4 monuments within a foot of each other at the attorney's northeast corner. The 2006 Parcel Map surveyor accepts the 1-inch pipe that my dad called off by 0.10' and calls my dad's rebar off by 0.12' South & 0.26' West and the width of the parcel 230.07'.

 
Posted : April 14, 2011 11:02 am
(@paul-plutae)
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> ....and the width of the parcel 230.07'.

Only today..tomorrow (next survey) it will expand or shrink, ummm, unless monuments are held.

 
Posted : April 14, 2011 11:05 am
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Paul - I just emailed you my dad's 1976 map and the 2006 Parcel Map. Enjoy.

 
Posted : April 14, 2011 11:18 am
(@adamsurveyor)
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> > 'eight-tenths foot' sounds funny and I would think the "of a" should be inserted to imply the appropriate intended pronunciation.
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> > I think I'm going to ask on that wordcraft page.
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> > Tom
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> Ask them if 0.8 might be read as eight-tenths feet. I don't think I would ever say something like that, but then I might be wrong.
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> Radar

Radar, would you say "eight-tenths foot" to the corner, or would you say "eight-tenths of a foot"? If you are writing "eight-tenths" numerically, wouldn't you write 8/10?

But I agree with you a little bit. If you read it as eight-tenths, you might write it differently than if you read it as "zero point eight".

I read an artical (I have long-since forgotton the author) that talked about the term 'historically'. If it is part of your colloquial language to pronounce the "h" you would use "a historical" and if was improper to prononunce the "h" you would typically say "an historical" (pronounced 'istorical). I am thinking that same theory might possibly apply to 0.8. But if it came down to it, I am seeing it is written with the zero, point, and the eight, whereas you are converting the decimal to a fractional term if you are saying "eight-tenths".

 
Posted : April 15, 2011 5:45 am
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> JBS - Obviously you wouldn't pronounce "feet" as "foot" but maybe since it is expressed in decimal numbers, it is proper to say "0.8 feet" even though it's only a portion of one foot. Which seems contrary to the way we say "0.8 acre", why isn't is "0.8 acres", or maybe it is. I'm going home now, I'm confusing myself.

"0.8 acres" would be correct, not "0.8 acre." If you want the latter, it would be written as "eight-tenths of an acre."

I think one of the things that might seem confusing, is that there is a difference between "writing" and "speaking." We "write" what we intend to be "read." When I write "a 0.8-acre parcel," it should be read as written: "a zero point eight-acre parcel." You wouldn't read it as "an eight-tenths of an acre parcel." If I were to write about "a parcel of land containing 0.8 acres," You would read it as "containing zero point eight acres," not as "containing 8/10's acres." If I wanted to communicate that, I would write "8/10's of an acre." A 10th is a fractional part "of" a whole.

Quite simple, really... ;o)

JBS

 
Posted : April 15, 2011 6:03 am
(@adamsurveyor)
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Dave

> You need a hyphen
> 10,000-square foot lot
> 10,000 square feet.
> 25-acre tract
> 25 acres

Kris,
I think you need another hyphen. 10,000-square-foot lot. It seems to me to be a three-word adjective for "lot".

 
Posted : April 15, 2011 6:18 am
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