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I have a quick question. I have not done much research on this but do you have to be licensed in the state you do elevation certs in? I work in SC but am Licensed in NC. We do a fair share of them being on the coast. I have done some quick research and I can not find a clear cut answer. thanks for any input.


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 7:51 am
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I have always been told if you do work for the federal government it does not matter where you hold a licenses.


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 7:53 am
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The beginning of section D states "This certification is to be signed and sealed by a land surveyor, engineer, or architect authorized by law to certify elevation information.

I assume "authorized by law" means the state law so you have to be licensed in the state the structure is in.


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 8:49 am
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I believe the answer may rest on the fact that while the feds apparently don't really care, the state does. Several out-of-state surveyors have been reprimanded (by either Oklahoma or their issuing state) for providing services in a state in which they are not licensed.

Edit: One that comes to mind: An out-of-state construction company had a contract on federal property here in Oklahoma (Military Base). Over the course of the contract the company's surveyor (not licensed in Oklahoma) produced several documents ranging from quantity calculations to plot plans showing public R/W locations. The State Board slapped him on the wrist. His argument was that the federal property was not within the state's jurisdiction.


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 8:53 am
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EC's for individuals will require a state license. If you are on federal land you do not have to be licensed in that state. I used to work for NASA and engineers from Wisconsin would stamp structural drawing in Louisiana.


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 1:01 pm

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Civilsurvey, post: 337636, member: 9454 wrote: EC's for individuals will require a state license. If you are on federal land you do not have to be licensed in that state. I used to work for NASA and engineers from Wisconsin would stamp structural drawing in Louisiana.

Thanks what i was thinking as well. Thanks for all the input.


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 2:37 pm
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ChevisK, post: 337580, member: 6717 wrote: I have always been told if you do work for the federal government it does not matter where you hold a licenses.

You are not working for the Federal Government when you prepare an Elevation Certificate - you are working for the property owner...


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 3:25 pm
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You have to pay attention to the licensing law in each state concerning this. Most states do have a "federal employee exemption", but only covers actual full time employees of the government agency, not consultants or contract workers. In all of the states I'm familiar with, if I am hired by that agency as a contractor to provide surveying services, I have to be licensed in the state I'm working in since their law states that the "offering" of professional services is considered the practice of surveying. Be careful.


 
Posted : September 23, 2015 6:03 pm
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paden cash, post: 337591, member: 20 wrote: I believe the answer may rest on the fact that while the feds apparently don't really care, the state does. Several out-of-state surveyors have been reprimanded (by either Oklahoma or their issuing state) for providing services in a state in which they are not licensed.

Edit: One that comes to mind: An out-of-state construction company had a contract on federal property here in Oklahoma (Military Base). Over the course of the contract the company's surveyor (not licensed in Oklahoma) produced several documents ranging from quantity calculations to plot plans showing public R/W locations. The State Board slapped him on the wrist. His argument was that the federal property was not within the state's jurisdiction.

This whole issue becomes quite muddled when dealing with Tribal lands held in Trust by the USA on behalf of Soverign Nations. I don't even understand what that means...


 
Posted : September 24, 2015 7:24 am
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Good point.

From some of my reference fodder: "The use of trust lands is governed by the tribes, subject to certain federal restrictions, and the land is usually not subject to state laws."

There is always that word "usually"...


 
Posted : September 24, 2015 7:45 am

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ChevisK, post: 337579, member: 6717 wrote: I have a quick question. I have not done much research on this but do you have to be licensed in the state you do elevation certs in? I work in SC but am Licensed in NC. We do a fair share of them being on the coast. I have done some quick research and I can not find a clear cut answer. thanks for any input.

I would say certainly. On top of the rules and regs for the state boards, when you have an account to submit eLOMAs you can only submit them in states you are licensed in.


 
Posted : September 24, 2015 5:04 pm