In Colorado we have a statute requiring the deposit of surveys into the County Surveyor's records. These are required to be mylars which are to be indexed and available to the public. In the City and County of Denver we have tens of thousands of these surveys which are scanned and available on line. No one ever comes in to look at the original mylars. Looking in to the future, storage of these documents becomes problematic. Is anyone aware of a state or county that allows purely electronic deposit of plats and surveys? No mylars, no paper, just electronic.
In the two Washington counties that I work in they require me to drop off a hard copy. It can be bond, mylar is not necessary. They scan them and return them by mail if I want. I imagine that we are headed toward electronic posting but not there yet.
What is the filing fee in Colorado? Here it is $157.
Not here. They probably will never go all electronic. Still require mylar submittals.
Did research at a city hall awhile ago and they had paper, rag and mylar in books that are quite old. I felt like an archeologist.
$20 a sheet.
I like the idea of scanning and returning the document. Very much like the Clerk and Recorder process.
In Arkansas, there is only one place to record. State Surveyors Office.
They can be electronic submittals.
Here are some examples of my work:
http://geostor-plats.geostor.org/Pike/241110.pdf
http://geostor-plats.geostor.org/Pike/500-1254-00202-daisy226-HubertJones.pdf
Here is an example of a scanned document, (Another Surveyor's work)
http://geostor-plats.geostor.org/Garland/198561.pdf
So, my point is, which one is more legible?
And, they have gone to putting the water mark on them, in the WRONG sequence... it is supposed to be UNDER not OVER text.
I'll be calling them about that.
N
Rubrew, post: 395573, member: 954 wrote: Is anyone aware of a state or county that allows purely electronic deposit of plats and surveys? No mylars, no paper, just electronic.
Here in New Zealand our Survey and Title system is all electronic - (Landonline).
We lodge surveys by preparing a LandXML data set that gets uploaded to the system. We can attached scanned documents etc as needed, but we dont prepare a plan (plat) as such.
The checking and verification is also almost entirely automatic.
Rubrew, post: 395577, member: 954 wrote: Very much like the Clerk and Recorder process.
In Washington; Surveys are recorded with the Auditor (https://www.clark.wa.gov/public-works/surveys-subdivisions-short-plats&apos ;">except for Clark County) in a chronological order...
If you know when a survey was recorded, it will be easier to find?
RADAR, post: 395596, member: 413 wrote: In Washington; Surveys are recorded with the Auditor (https://www.clark.wa.gov/public-works/surveys-subdivisions-short-plats&apos ;">except for Clark County) in a chronological order...
If you know when a survey was recorded, it will be easier to find?
Yes. In King, Pierce and Snohomish counties you can search by year recorded or even within a range of Instrument numbers.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 395592, member: 291 wrote: In Arkansas, there is only one place to record. State Surveyors Office.
They can be electronic submittals.
Here are some examples of my work:
http://geostor-plats.geostor.org/Pike/241110.pdf
http://geostor-plats.geostor.org/Pike/500-1254-00202-daisy226-HubertJones.pdf
Here is an example of a scanned document, (Another Surveyor's work)
http://geostor-plats.geostor.org/Garland/198561.pdf
So, my point is, which one is more legible?
And, they have gone to putting the water mark on them, in the WRONG sequence... it is supposed to be UNDER not OVER text.
I'll be calling them about that.
N
The watermark says Not Original. Where is the original? Is in your records?
Is the signature and seal electronic or is this sheet scanned by you with the sig and seal already applied?
In our state we don't have ANY records available online! Go blm only.
Rubrew, post: 395601, member: 954 wrote: The watermark says Not Original. Where is the original? Is in your records?
Is the signature and seal electronic or is this sheet scanned by you with the sig and seal already applied?
It's the concept, that if a realtor gets one, he has that across the front.
Has to go to surveyor, to get an original.
N
It is my understanding that the most populated County in my State scans the Mylar (required by Statute) drawing and then destroys the original. The author is not allowed to have it returned to him under any circumstances.
1. I hope they have a 100% backed up system.
2. I don't understand how copyright law affects destruction of the original - perhaps not at all.
Rubrew, post: 395573, member: 954 wrote: In Colorado we have a statute requiring the deposit of surveys into the County Surveyor's records. These are required to be mylars which are to be indexed and available to the public. In the City and County of Denver we have tens of thousands of these surveys which are scanned and available on line. No one ever comes in to look at the original mylars. Looking in to the future, storage of these documents becomes problematic. Is anyone aware of a state or county that allows purely electronic deposit of plats and surveys? No mylars, no paper, just electronic.
Salt Lake County Surveyor. Utah does electronic filing. I've never done one, don't work in that county. I believe they been doing it for a few years.
http://slco.org/surveyor/survey-recordation/electronically-filing-records-of-survey/
I can't even imagine why any recording agency would destroy an original mylar....
LRDay, post: 395618, member: 571 wrote: Salt Lake County Surveyor. Utah does electronic filing. I've never done one, don't work in that county. I believe they been doing it for a few years.
http://slco.org/surveyor/survey-recordation/electronically-filing-records-of-survey/
I did a recording in Salt Lake County just over a year ago. They have a really nice system. Painless and cheap. They even do a basic review where changes are up to the Surveyor.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 395605, member: 291 wrote: It's the concept, that if a realtor gets one, he has that across the front.
Has to go to surveyor, to get an original.
N
The realtors still try to use them on occasion, or call and ask for a signed original for free. Umm nope!
thebionicman, post: 395631, member: 8136 wrote: I did a recording in Salt Lake County just over a year ago. They have a really nice system. Painless and cheap. They even do a basic review where changes are up to the Surveyor.
This is what I'm looking for. Thanks. Can you send me a copy of a survey that has been electronically deposited? I am curious to see what information the County adds to the image (recording info, disclaimers, etc.).
Rubrew, post: 395729, member: 954 wrote: This is what I'm looking for. Thanks. Can you send me a copy of a survey that has been electronically deposited? I am curious to see what information the County adds to the image (recording info, disclaimers, etc.).
I would fully expect that the Salt Lake County, Utah Surveyor's office would be willing to share their methods and other stuff concerning electronic fling. Just give them a call.
British Columbia has been totally online for a few years now. I wouldn't even know where the rolls of mylar or vellum are anymore.
Rubrew, post: 395729, member: 954 wrote: This is what I'm looking for. Thanks. Can you send me a copy of a survey that has been electronically deposited? I am curious to see what information the County adds to the image (recording info, disclaimers, etc.).
The Salt Lake County Surveyor has great info on the web. I changed jobs and no longer have access to those old files...