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(@richard-germiller)
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Posted by: @holy-cow

Two of them were Main Street.?ÿ Easy to do, tough to catch because we tend to look at the little things and overlook the really obvious ones.?ÿ?ÿ

Was working a little late one evening, while my employer was in the other room making prints to turn in to the city. Next thing I know I hear "OH CRAP" from the other room, went to find out what was wrong. He had made I don't know how many sets he had printed before he realized that none of them had a North Arrow. Like you said, we are looking at the technical and miss the things that we expect to just be there. We also had a block of standard notes for one of the cities that would just get copied from one set of plans to the next, complete with the original misspelling of "trunk caliper" as "truck caliper" (no spell check is gonna see that). The city reviewer pointed it out in a meeting with the bosses. This was a married couple running the business, so after that the wife, who was the business manager, would go through all of the plans to check grammar and spelling, and the plans weren't stamped until after her review.

At a different job, an administrative assist was just hanging around the office at lunchtime, she took a piece of paper off the printer and just started looking at it. She brings it over to me and asks about a misspelling or grammar mistake, I agreed with her, thanked her, and marked it up to bring to the attention of the drawings creator.

Sometimes it just takes the eyes of the "non-technical" staff to catch those types of things.?ÿ

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 6:51 am
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@fairbanksls?ÿ

No EIT is reviewing them in our office, though I wouldn't have a problem with an in house EIT trained in surveying to provide a review of one of my surveys, the more checks the better in my opinion. However, the EIT from the OP is working for a county agency and likely has little to no survey related training, also the refusal to accept my decision as final is the real concern here.?ÿ

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In my mind, the comment was made, I addressed by saying it did not need to be changed, that should be the end of it, but that is not what happened, so here we are. I'll let yall know where this ends up.?ÿ

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 7:07 am
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Posted by: @fairbanksls

Why is an EIT checking an RPLSƒ??s work??ÿ

That is not allowed in my State. Check your Board's Rules..

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 7:15 am
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@bstrand?ÿ

The term "true point of beginning" came about through the use of "beginning" when "commencing" is meant.?ÿ Typically done, in my experience, by abstractors and attorneys.?ÿ Wattles,1979, Section 11.9, says that there is no hard rule on this.?ÿ IMHO, "true" should only be used when the point of commencement is called "beginning."?ÿ Never should be used when the point of commencement is called that.?ÿ "Beginning/True Beginning" or "Commencing"/Beginning".?ÿ The main thing, according to Wattles, is that there is a distinction between the two points.

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 7:22 am
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@brandona?ÿ

When I worked at a county in GIS, OCCASIONALLY I would be mapping a plat for the GIS and I'd find a bust or a blunder.

The one I found that got a lot of attention occured before I worked there, and just landed in my lap prior to it being signed and accepted.

I found a big bust, like 285.45 ft of Non closure and didn't match the legal description etc.

I figured out that through the multiple easement/ROW vacations and Lot line adjustments (Park county Colorado has?ÿ huge areas of zombie lots/plats and this happens more often than the norm at least there) the Surveyor missed a lot on the QC before printing and I reached out to ask him if he saw what I did.

Luckily he did. He thanked me for the heads up, but I never told him he was wrong or hey go fix this. I just wanted to confirm what I was seeing on the submitted plat and he confirmed.

Big PITA?ÿ though was it had been filed and was a giant undertaking because so many of the signatories we're not local or even dead, so he was going to have to file an amended plat to resolve the bust I found and noticed.

So it goes.

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Please lets us know, and good luck.?ÿ Anyone not licensed coming down and trying to lay down the law needs a really good back hand of reality to get them straight.?ÿ

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 7:29 am
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@jitterboogie?ÿ

Was reviewing one last week by another surveyor before being filed.?ÿ The job was a ballbuster with an ancient description that began at the east end of a bridge that was replaced in 1950.?ÿ I was very thorough on this review as I knew someone in the future will want to challenge the revised description as being wrong for some reason.?ÿ Every i was dotted and every t was crossed.?ÿ Well, that is, until his statement of creating this description on 7-25-22.?ÿ It should have been 2-2-22.

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 8:34 am
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@holy-cow?ÿ

Inverted dyslexia perhaps????

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 8:45 am
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@jitterboogie?ÿ

I'm thinking more like fat-fingered, or not clear handwriting that was incorrectly interpreted by whoever was at the keyboard (and just typing and not paying full attention), I've seen two's that can look like sevens and vice-versa. Given that the differences between 2-2-22 and 7-25-22, I'd say it was a combination of the two.

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 9:18 am
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I despise numerical months. Even within the US you can run onto variations in the order within dates, and more so in communicating across borders. And is it really too much trouble to include the other digits of the year? How did we ever get through 01/03/02,?ÿ 02/01/03 etc?

Post made on 2022 Feb 14. (Most significant to least significant, like we do most other things.)

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 9:46 am
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@bill93?ÿ

Don't candy coat it Bill, tell us how you REALLY feel..

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Posted : 14/02/2022 10:03 am
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Posted by: @bill93

I despise numerical months. Even within the US you can run onto variations in the order within dates, and more so in communicating across borders.

Having been mostly educated in Canada I am most comfortable with Year, month, day order.?ÿ I use that in directory and file names and things of that sort. But I almost always spell out the month when writing dates.?ÿ

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 10:30 am
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I love numerical month/day/year

I really don't care how they do it in Europe, Canada, wherever, I don't work there.?ÿ The convention here in the US is MDY.?ÿ Has been for a while.?ÿ It's not so difficult to understand.

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 10:50 am
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I really don't care how they do it in Europe, Canada, wherever, I don't work there.?ÿ The convention here in the US is MDY.?ÿ Has been for a while.?ÿ It's not so difficult to understand.

Did somebody crap in your cornflakes this morning?

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 10:57 am
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@norman-oklahoma?ÿ

Ha, not at all.

I guess I should've added a unicorn and a puppy symbol at the end

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 11:07 am
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Posted by: @jph

I love numerical month/day/year

I really don't care how they do it in Europe, Canada, wherever, I don't work there.?ÿ The convention here in the US is MDY.?ÿ Has been for a while.?ÿ It's not so difficult to understand.

USA! USA! USA!?ÿ ?????ÿ

It took me 20 years, but I've mostly transitioned to year-month-day numerical.?ÿ The file sorting advantage is huge.

 
Posted : 14/02/2022 11:11 am
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